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Contents 1 Junction Table format 2 Signage 3 Junctions 4 Map of history/future 5 Trivia 6 Great North Road 7 Expressway 8 History 9 Proposed improvements 10 Primary Destinations 11 Direction

[edit] Junction Table format

Table of junctions in similar format as on pages for A14 and M6. - JVG 11:57, 27 November 2005 (UTC) Also a Roman Road

Table removed

No thanks - that's horrid. Plus the motorway pages, which all have numbered junctions of course do not have such infoboxes, so why have them for A roads that only have numbered junctions on their (M) sections? wangi 12:05, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

There are tables similar to this on the A14 and M6 pages. Just trying to be regular and structured. I deliberately put it here first because I wasn't sure how to deal with the non-motorway bits. The A14 has no (M) bit by the way, yet still has junction numbers. - JVG 12:08, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Also, it allows the table to be improved without it being on the main page. The counties could be taken out or something but I put those in as it emphasises where the road is going. Your motorway page arguement is a bit of a mute point by the way as the M4 motorway, M5 motorway and M8 motorway also had this sort of table before I even got to them. - JVG 12:22, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Well this is the wrong place to start really - if this is going to be used as standard on all major UK roads then it should of course be started off on the roads that are numbered through out - the motorways. I'd recommend using templates too. Perhaps M1 motorway is a better place to start, or Wikipedia:WikiProject Highways? In anycase the formatting is too "in your face" and large, and the information is too much - Wikipedia is not a travel guide, I think the balance is about right in the motorway info box where is lists the major roads / junctions. Thanks/wangi 12:31, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

I'll leave this here for possible future use (with alterations) but on the page's in which it is already in place it usually sits at the bottom... - JVG 12:33, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Well why not use the formatting (as in M8 motorway) rather than re-invent the wheel? It's certainly a lot less nasty :) wangi 12:34, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

It's an option. I changed the format a bit to fit the A14 and sort of carried it through but it can easily be changed to the M8 format... Also, it'd probably be less "in your face" when all the major junctions between the motorway stretches would be added... I'm not keen on the big blocks of county border changes myself... - JVG 12:37, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Can the tables associated with this discussion be ditched now? The A1 no longer uses the proposed format and the tables dominate the talk pages in an inappropriate way? PeterIto (talk) 10:26, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Table removed

I have removed the tables because they mess with the edit boxes for the talk pages (do bring them back if you disagree with my decision). PeterIto (talk) 10:30, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Signage

It is not A1 but the Northwest end of the A720 Edinburgh Bypass. There you still find signs, the first The South and East and nearby The North and West.--Klaus with K 21:17, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Junctions

Folks I have added the motorway junctions in the format used normally. Can someone check the junction numbers around Wetherby as I believe they have changed. This is not to preclude what is going on to the right, but I wanted to get the info out there.

Secondly the motorway routeboxes need adding if it is to match the other motorway pages. Does anyone have the relevant info?

Alternatively do we create a new version for A roads and A roads with (M) sections?Regan123 21:33, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Map of history/future

Would it be possible to have a map showing how the A1(M) has progressed over time and where the future improvements are?

[edit] Trivia

"The A1 is the closest thing Britain has to a cult road". M1? M25? A470? (AndrewAnorak 16:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Great North Road

Is there a good reason why the (historical) Great North Road doesn't have its own article? (ricjl 17:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC))

Good question - there is a lot of information on this on SABRE-roads.org.uk and its associated forums. Also, why is the London section on a different article on here? 161.12.7.4 09:38, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Expressway

I don't like the wording of the expressway section - it claims the expressway section is motorway standard. It isn't - there are a significant number of roundabouts along the route. The only comparison with a motorway is the restriction on the types of vehicles which can use the road. 161.12.7.4 09:41, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History

I have added notes about the coaching inns, the memorial at Norman Cross etc. The loss of the historic Ram Jam building is a great sadness.

There is already an external link to the excellent http://www.biffvernon.freeserve.co.uk/norman_cross.htm but People interested in the fate of the eagle may care to know it is back. See http://www.stilton.org/cam_norman_cross_memorial.html The idea that the "vandalism" may have been state-sponsored lingers on in various articles. I have never seen any explanation of what happened to the french graves beneath the old eagle when the road was moved. -- Brunnian (talk) 15:59, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed improvements

I am changing the section called 'Future Improvement' to 'Proposed Improvements' as not all proposals will actually happen and also this section can now be a useful container for festering issues for which there was no current plans, as well as for ones where the plans have been rejected. Personally I believe that 'improvement' is a POV and significant numbers of people argue that expanding capacity does not 'improve' things due to induced demand but that is a subject for another discussion! PeterIto (talk) 10:20, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Primary Destinations

Would it not be better if the list of Primary Destinations in the info box were listed North to South insted of the Random order that they are in now? I will work on it if I have time but can't promise to do all of it. TheTrojanHought (talk) 22:13, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good, either that or alphabetically, I wonder if there a convention that should be followed? However anything is better that random! PeterIto (talk) 22:40, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

The standard seems to be to do the London end first and head out from there (eg M1, M4, M11 etc) PeterIto (talk) 22:43, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I removed Newton Aycliffe from this list as it is not, and has not ever been a primary destination. I do notice there are other towns, for example Hatfield, which are primary destinations (and indeed, the picture at South Mimms shows Hatfield is signed on the A1M) but are not listed in the list. If we do have this feature, can we ensure that all the towns in the list are primary destinations and that all the signed primary destinations on the A1 / A1M are included. 86.3.219.136 (talk) 22:07, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Direction

Isn't the direction South-North, if the road starts in London? --El Pollo Diablo (Talk) 12:50, 2 June 2008 (UTC)