Talk:8th King's Royal Irish Hussars

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Contents 1 Milhist Assessment 2 Crimean War 3 Battle Honours 4 QRIH

[edit] Milhist Assessment

I have re-assessed it and it remains a start article. One of the main problems with this article is its lack of references. In order to remain verifiable it needs to have verifiable, reliable sources listed to cite any arguments or points. At the moment a lot of the references used are to Wikipedia, which is not a reliable source. You need outside sources such as books, The Times, journals etc. When you do add a citation try to use a citation template so we can see all of the information about it.

This line doesn't imbue me with confidence: "Reproduced in part from the website of the Queen's Royal Hussars the successor regiment of the 8th Hussars. [2]" Make sure you do not copy text directly, instead rewrite it here and cite the other website.

I will run through it now and rewrite sections. Some of the section headers need amalgamating. Woody (talk) 17:04, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate your comments very much, also thank you for being willing to rewrite some of the sections. I don't think I was aware of how big a project this was going to be and I believe I'll be at it for some time yet to produce a good article. At least there's a good improvement to it though and here's hoping I'm able to verify it to Wikipedia standards.GDD1000 (talk) 17:07, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Crimean War

I think the following text is far, far too detailed for an article on the 8th. It is ok for the Crimean War article, but we need to be more concise here. I will try and trim it down so it relates to the 8th instead of general terms. Woody (talk) 11:31, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

As part of the second wave of the brigade's attack, the 8th were in line with the 4th Light Dragoons and, advancing in support at a steady pace, came under fire. Wounded men and horses from the leading squadrons kept dashing out, making the lines unsteady. The pace increasing, the 8th, who were on the right, directing, were checked by the officers, but the 4th did not check and continued on at the utmost speed, the two regiments forming into separate lines and advancing separately, the pace of the 8th not exceeding a good trot. In spite of the fall of men and horses, the regiment passed the remains of the battery in the valley. They, unaware of the imminent presence of a Russian brigade of light cavalry, "slaughtered the Russian gunners and pushing forward were met by the remnants of the first line in retreat. Lord George Paget, commander of the second line, on being informed that Russian lancers were closing in behind them shouted, "Halt boys, halt front, if we don't halt now we're done!" [4] They halted some 300 to 400 yards beyond. They had passed completely through the crossfire of the infantry and the batteries on the hills, losing about half their men. Here they formed up to their front, and being out of fire, waited some three to five minutes for orders. They were so diminished in numbers that they formed less than one squadron. Joined by a few others, chiefly from the 17th Lancers, the remains formed up on the left, making in all about 70 men. Deciding to attack the Russian lancers in their rear the squadron came round as if on parade. Two Russian squadrons were faced, some of them going off before they could be reached, but the remainder waited, received the attack and were overthrown. The ground was now opened up for the Brigade to retire, the 8th now pursued their course to their original position, followed by all the other horsemen of the other regiments, and as their horses became blown or wounded, they tailed

I'm fine with that.GDD1000 (talk) 11:39, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

It's looking good. I have a CD of images which I'll try and select some from later to give the article some colour.GDD1000 (talk) 16:28, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I have added some without seeing this post. Feel free to replace them with more 8th specific ones. Woody (talk) 16:39, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

A friend of mine who's still serving sent me a CD of thousands of images for th 3rd, 4th, 7th & 8th hussars just recently. I just have to trawl though them to find some specific ones. I bet you can guess which articles I'll be editing next then?GDD1000 (talk) 16:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Battle Honours

Woody I note your excellent layout of the battle honours. One wee thing in the interests of accuracy: only 40 battle honours were emblazoned on the guidon (that's still the rule today), that's why I had a list of "emblazoned" and "accredited". I don't want to tamper with your excellent work so maybe you could change the wording to reflect that?GDD1000 (talk) 17:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Spot on Woody - thanksGDD1000 (talk) 17:49, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] QRIH

I'm not sure that the last change by Buckshot06 is relevant. The first duties of the new regiment involved several years overseas in the Far East as part of the dismantling of empire. I can't see why we need to jump to the 100 hour action of the QRIH in 1991? Could someone give me another opinion please?GDD1000 (talk) 10:46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)