User talk:86.155.106.187

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There is no consensus for the changes your making to the Politics of Northern Ireland templates, there is a ongoing discussion so please don't edit war on this issue.--Padraig (talk) 15:16, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

That does not appear to be the case on the discussion that I have seen. What is your problem with the addition of the Royal Arms anyway?.

My problem is that these templates and the images used have been stable for along time, the map image was created specialy for them as a neutral symbol, the Ulster Banner was used in the 1921-72 particulary because that was the most common symbol associated with the Unionist Government of that period. I have no problem with changes but this has to be agreed by discussion and consensus first, which is why I ask you to stop making changes without consensus being achieved. So can you please revert your edits so a discussion on this can take place.--Padraig (talk) 15:48, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Politics templates use coat of arms images, and thus the Royal Arms is used for Northern Ireland. Evidence has been provided that the political institutions of Northern Ireland are using the Royal Arms.

I have refuted that evidence in the discussion ongoing, also you have failed to show where all politial templates use coat of arms, where is this ruling on Wikipedia.--Padraig (talk) 16:09, 12 January 2008 (UTC)


I should also point out that the coat of arms, as with Assembly Flax symbol are copy-righted and under wikipedia fair usage policy and cannot be used in templates.--Padraig (talk) 16:18, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

It would be inappropiate anyway, as coat of arms are used on politics templates. Also your statement that that symbol is used on Northern Irish Acts is wrong.

All Documents produced by the Northern Ireland Assembly carry the Assembly Flax Symbol including Acts, only documents issued by Westminster council have the coat of arms as is common practice for Westminster, why do you think the Flax symbol was devised for in the first place, because it was a agreed symbol by all the Political parties involved in the Assembly.--Padraig (talk) 16:27, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

The Children (Emergency Protection Orders) Act (Northern Ireland)[1] It's there in black and white.

To autosign your comments use 4 ~ .--Padraig (talk) 16:50, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

The Children Act your linked to was to repeal part of an existing Westminster Act from 1995, that required royal assent which is why it was sent to Westminster, I mean new Acts passed by the Assembly itself.--Padraig (talk) 16:50, 12 January 2008 (UTC)


Why don't you go to [2], which lists all Acts of the Assembly ever passed and review all the Acts.

I also suggest you read this article, Northern Ireland Assembly to bring yourself up to speed with how politics works in Northern Ireland. The article states "Although the British monarch is not formally a component of the Assembly (as is the case at Westminster), all bills passed by the Assembly must receive the Royal Assent in order to become law. This is not a mere formality; if he or she believes that a bill violates the constitutional limitations on the powers of the Assembly the Secretary of State will refuse to submit the bill to the monarch for Assent. If submitted by the Secretary of State, the monarch will, by convention, sign a bill into law. Acts of the Northern Ireland Assembly begin with the enacting formula: "BE IT ENACTED by being passed by the Northern Ireland Assembly and assented to by Her Majesty as follows:".

[edit] Template:Politics of Northern Ireland

Give it a rest sock boy or you will be blocked.--Vintagekits (talk) 17:01, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

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OK thanks 86.155.106.187 (talk) 17:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR

You have broken 3RR on Template:Politics of Northern Ireland 1921-72 please revert your last edit, and refrain from edit warring or you can be blocked.--Padraig (talk) 17:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule . Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an edit war. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below.

LaraLove 18:38, 12 January 2008 (UTC)