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Please do not keep vandalising Storms page. Thanks Jaime

Vandalising how? By adding relevant factual information to improve the usefulness of the page?

No it doesn't improve the usefulness of the page because it is meaningless and irrelevant information that you keep posting. We dont want to keep cleaning up after you, please dont do it again. thanks, Jaime.

How is it meaningless? The page claims that Storm is immune to all effects of the weather, and this is simply not true. As it stands, it is therefore inaccurate. How is correcting this inaccuracy irrelevant?


Yes it is true that Storm is immune to the effects of ALL weather. The ONE occasion that you are referring to is when Storm was in a weakened state and she could not control the storm properly over the whole sub continent. This does not show evidence to not being immune to the effects of the weather, thus does not constitute being acknowledged on the page. You need evidence to back up you claim if you have no evidence it is meaningless. Thx Jaime

Very well. X-Men Unlimited #1
Storm laid low - and almost killed - by the weather. Therefore not immune to all of it. Note that Xavier also dismisses as absurd the idea that Storm is immune to such things as hail.

No professor X does not dissmiss the idea as he knows not if this would happen. Notice the question mark next to the frases. If you actually know the character of storm then you would know that the hail would not be able to penetrate her biomagnectic and electric shield. All that shows is that Storm was battling a weather storm of sorts and is obviously in a weakend condission. Again that weather storm that professor x is talking about is from the same one I was talking about in the last post. Also storms powers have advanced greatly since that edition was published. Thx Jaime.

She's weakened because she has been exposed to extreme weather conditions - in this case the cold. No other reason. She's been overcome by the weather. She has not been exposed to similar conditions in the comics since, and therefore there is nothing to suggest that she would be any more capable of surviving them. She hasn't collapsed because she was trying to control the entire storm. If you read what's actually written there, she's collapsed because the blizzard was too much for her powers to compensate for.
In other words, she's clearly not immune to all effects of the weather. If she were truly immune to all weather, she wouldn't have needed saving. Therefore, if anyone's the vandal here, it's you - the one who deliberately promulgates inaccuracy.
Finally, a forcefield does not equate to immunity. Cable, for example, until recently possessed a telekinetic forcefield that could stop pretty much anything short of a nuclear strike (and possibly even that, depending on how you interpret his fight with the Silver Surfer). It could certainly stop bullets. This didn't make him immune to bullets, it just made him able to avoid being hit by them. If heavy hail hit Storm, would she be bruised?

Storm was unable to control the weather on that particular occasion because she was in a weakened condition not because she couldn't control the weather or vulnerable to the cold but because she was ill. The weather such as hail would not touch Storm because as she controls the weather she would not let the hail touch her. You cant compare storm to another mutant as each one is different. One occasion is not enough evidence to back up the claim you have made. If the weather effected Storm on almost every occasion then this would be sufficient evidence. Until then it doesn't constitute to being added to the page.

What was she weakened by? They had just been on holiday in the Savage Land, then the storm hit and she went down. Where did the weakening come in?
The comparison is apt. After all, the same field that deflects hail can also be used to deflect bullets. Is Storm also immune to bullets? Perhaps a simpler way of putting it: If Storm was unconscious, and caught in a hailstorm, would she be untouched?
And you clearly don't understand the meaning of the word 'all'. I suggest you find a good dictionary and look it up.

That is not a comparison that can be used. If Storm was unconscious then Id imagine that she would be hit by hailstones! That has nothing what so ever to do with her immune to all effects of the weather. I think you are a bit confused over the terminology of immune. When Storm is controlling the weather elements, she would be totally immune to the effects of this. If she is unconscious then obviously her control over the weather is disabled. This does not mean that she is vulnerable to the effects of the weather. It is not just me that keeps cleaning up after you. A administrator keeps doing it as well. I suggest you find a good dictionary and look up the words 'immune' and 'effects'.

If that's the case the administrator is presumably misinformed.
American Heritage Dictionary. Immune: Not affected by a given influence, unresponsive. Seems perfectly straightforward, and if anything in my favour - her body temperature changing is a clear response to the weather. But that's semantics. The fact remains; she wasn't weakened or injured by any previous influence, she was simply knocked out by the sheer intensity of the cold. And as such is clearly affected by and responsive to this given influence. As such, she simply cannot be said to be immune to all effects of the weather.
Why are you so concerned with promulgating this falsehood?


The administrators are not misinformed. I think it is you that's misinformed. As I said before even if what you are saying is true, it is just one occasion and does not contribute to being added on the page. Why are you so concerned to keep changing it? As I know there are 4 people other than myself that clean up after you. So does that mean we are all wrong?

You're foolishly dogmatic. Facts are not determined by majority voting. Are you even going to address the topic, or are you just going to ignore my points in the hopes that they go away? Let me recap.
1) What had weakened Storm allowing her to be overcome by the arctic storm?
2) In what way does Storm having been affected by the weather at least once in the past translate to her being immune to all effects of the weather, rather than just most?
3) How does the fact that Storm is able to avoid a certain effect through the exertion of her powers translate to immunity to that effect?

I really don't need you to re-cap over your points again! I clearly see that you are determined just to get it changed in your favour irrespective of the facts. So does that mean if magneto could not control magnetism on ONE occation (which has happened on more than one occation if I recall) he should have it in his powers and abilities section that he can control magnetism most or some of the time?! Get real! I think you clearly need to sit down and evaluate the facts before considering contributing in the future.