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Greetings. Thank you for your interest in Wikipedia and in the article on Isobel Barnett. Perhaps you have not come across her name before but as I have explained twice already she was always known as "Lady Isobel Barnett", never as "Isobel Lady Barnett". Search Google if you don't believe me. If in your opinion this was technically incorrect there may be room for a sentence to that effect, but the place for such a discussion is the Talk page (which in case you don't know you can access by clicking on the "discussion" tab above the article), and not the edit summary as you constantly repeat the same edit. In answer to your implied question, no, Wikipedia is not about portraying the world as it ought to be, but rather as it actually is. Accuracy is not the same as pedantry or wishful thinking, and it does not have a mission to teach people to use titles more "correctly". I hope you wouldn't rewrite the articles on Screaming Lord Such, Count Basie or King Kong on the grounds that those individuals were not technically entitled to those styles under the rules of Burke's Peerage or whatever. People are called what they are called and what the public know them as. Meanwhile please stop reverting this article. To do so frequently and repeatedly constitutes a form of vandalism, which can lead to your being blocked from editing. You may find the Manual of Style, the Policies and Guidelines, the Wikipedia:Simplified Ruleset or the Tutorial useful in familiarising yourself with the Wikipedia concept. You may also like to get a Wikipedia username. Best wishes, Flapdragon 18:14, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quite right too!

The style "Isobel, Lady Barnett" is quite wrong. This implies that her father was an Earl, Marquis or Duke, and is a mere courtesy title (the daughter of a Baron or Viscount is styled "The Honourable"). The correct style is "Lady Isobel Barnett", which she herself used quite correctly throughout.

In the case of Diana, Lady Spencer (before she was married), to have styled her as the press did, as 'Lady Diana Spencer', actually elevated her to a privilege that she had not earned, so no doubt, she didn't much mind! In this instance, you have demoted Isobel Barnett, which seems a bit unfair, as no one else is doing it to the poor soul.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.144.191.248 (talk) 16:07, 17 January 2007 (UTC).