User talk:81.168.80.170

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[edit] No account

Hello there! Welcome to Wikipedia! We've noticed that you've been making some great additions to the Wikipedia and we really appreciate it. Why not create an account and stay awhile? The Wikipedia can use as many quality members as possible. If you ever need editing help visit Wikipedia:How does one edit a page and experiment at Wikipedia:Sandbox. If you need pointers on how we title pages visit Wikipedia:Naming conventions. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or add a question to the Village pump. Hope to see you around for a long time to come! -- Grunt 14:14, 2004 Jun 22 (UTC)

  • Thanks. I prefer not to have an account, for a combination of reasons: convenience; a principle of remaining an outsider w.r.t. human groups; and a transaction-based (rather than relationship-based) view of my interaction with Wikipedia. I like Wikipedia largely because it allows contribution without registration. 195.167.169.36 10:40, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hello there! Welcome to Wikipedia! We've noticed that you've been making some great additions to the Wikipedia and we really appreciate it. Why not create an account and stay awhile? The Wikipedia can use as many quality members as possible. If you ever need editing help visit Wikipedia:How does one edit a page and experiment at Wikipedia:Sandbox. If you need pointers on how we title pages visit Wikipedia:Naming conventions. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or add a question to the Village pump. Hope to see you around for a long time to come! -- Grunt (talk) 14:50, 2004 Jul 17 (UTC)

If you gave us your name and email address anyhow, what is the point of not registering? -N328KF 13:28, 2004 Jul 25 (UTC)

  • Both practical and principled grounds. In practice, I don't want to have the unnecessary structure of a user account or action of "logging in". In principle, I like the fact that Wikipedia doesn't require registration, and want to ensure that I continue to judge it by what unregistered people can do. 81.168.80.170 13:34, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Stubs

Please note that {{msg:stub}} is deprecated; please use {{stub}} instead. -- Grunt 14:29, 2004 Jun 22 (UTC)

  • noted. 195.167.169.36 10:40, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Writing Captions

Hi, Zefram, I really liked the job you did on the captions for Tank! I'm working on starting a WikiProject to improve captions on other articles, and I'd like your feedback before I link in to the project from the usual places - see Wikipedia:WikiProject Writing Captions. I'd also be honored to have you as a participant on the project if you are interested. -- ke4roh 05:22, Jul 18, 2004 (UTC)

  • Good idea. I'm happy to participate in this project. 81.168.80.170 11:21, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
    • Thanks! -- ke4roh 16:32, Jul 18, 2004 (UTC)
      • Did you know you can frame images to get the captions to show up if the image isn't a thumb[nail]? [[Image:Greece-Cat.jpg|framed|Cats perch on walls to amuse themselves.]] Otherwise, it's just alt text which shows up on some browsers but not others. -- ke4roh 22:48, Jul 18, 2004 (UTC)
        • Ah, I see. I'm gradually getting to understand the image syntax. I use Lynx, so the differences between the image display styles aren't as obvious to me as to those using graphical browsers. 81.168.80.170 20:51, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind I just went over the captions on crash test dummy again to make them active. They're more engaging that way. Thanks for getting those captions going! -- ke4roh 21:07, Jul 19, 2004 (UTC)

  • That's fine. But you need to be more careful in your editing, not to leave grammatical errors. 81.168.80.170 21:23, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Oops! Thanks for catching it. I'll try not to undertake such tasks in short timeslots. -- ke4roh 23:20, Jul 19, 2004 (UTC)

I just added some clearer, more concise, more precise (and therefore more subject to dispute) pointers on Wikipedia:Captions. Would you be so kind as to look them over for suitability? Thanks! -- ke4roh 19:16, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Accents

Hi. I noticed that in your changes to Tour de France today you lost all the accented characters. It seems a bit odd to replace "`a" with "`a" or "c," with "c," -- are you using some unusual editing software? -- Arwel 13:56, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

  • Oh dear. That's not intentional. I'm using Lynx. I didn't know it did anything wrong with accents. 195.167.169.36 14:06, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
    • Figured it out now. I had Lynx configured to fold accented characters to ASCII approximations for display. Unfortunately it also folded them for editing. I've now fixed that, but I'm not happy with Lynx and may switch to another browser. Time to look at w3m. 195.167.169.36 14:34, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
      • w3m is worse. Bummer. 81.168.80.170 17:59, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
        • How about links instead (yes, there is a browser by that name, if anybody's wondering)? Johnleemk | Talk 14:56, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
          • Tried that too. Found it utterly unusable. Lynx is the worst web browser, except for all the others. 81.168.80.170 19:15, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Capitalisation

Hi, two things.

can you see manual of style re capitalisation of titles?

log in please Dunc_Harris|☺ 19:26, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)

  • Re capitalisation: I've reviewed the MOS, and I think what I've been doing matches it. Is there anything specific that you think I need to change? Re login: no thanks (see above). 81.168.80.170 19:37, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
okay, seems odd but, fair enough (I'm sure I've come across odder people in this place!). Proper names get capitalisation, but not generic ones, and it appears that you've followed thisright. My fault. I'll give you a barnstar anyway, for being the best anon I've come across, and the only non-anon IP! Dunc_Harris|☺ 20:02, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] SpaceShipOne diagrams

Hi,
I've taken a look at the flight profile of SpaceShipOne. (Sorry for the long response time; I've been alternating between being caught up in other things and just forgetting about your request. I found a diagram in PDF and in JPG. It's not a terribly complex sequence of events. I think we should just provide external links to these documents rather than trying to recreate the diagram. --Smack 00:29, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] SpaceShipOne 17P

Hello, Zefram. Thanks for your note to me. I'm sure I can name my photos with a "17P" tag somehow, and get them uploaded sometime today. Hope you like them! --avnative 19:06, Oct 6, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] PHB

I've moved this to Pointy Haired Boss - Ta bu shi da yu 08:00, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Browser troubles

Hi. I've just seen your edit to 7 July 2005 London bombings, which broke a lot of Unicode characters and various other things. From the messages above it seems you're already aware of the potential for these kind of problems, but I thought I'd let you know about this anyway, as Wikipedia has just upgraded it's software, and Unicode characters in articles can now be displayed without being encoded as HTML entities. This means that when someone adds an interwiki link to the Japanese Wikipedia, for example, the text of the link will no longer be converted to a string of simple symbols and numbers in edit mode, but will be left as it would appear if displayed in the article. This is likely to increase your problems. By the way, I've tried to reincorporate everything you were trying to do to that article instead of reverting you, so your edit wasn't lost. — Trilobite (Talk) 9 July 2005 16:04 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Trans-bashing

Trans-bashing, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Trans-bashing satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trans-bashing and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Trans-bashing during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. AvruchTalk 00:31, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ISO 4217 codes

Please provide evidence to back up the ISO codes you have recently entered against many obsolete or historical currencies. The fact that you gave codes for the Greek drachma from well over a century before the ISO came into existence makes me extremely skeptical of the accuracy of your contributions. -- Arwel (talk) 08:14, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

  • They're from [1] which has a lot of retrospective codes for obsolete currencies. (It also has non-ISO four- and five-letter codes for currency variants.) As I don't have a copy of the standard I can't be 100% sure whether the historical codes are in the standard or not, nor indeed whether that listing is accurate for codes that are in the standard. The ISO 4217 article doesn't specifically say whether the scope of the standard includes historical currencies or not. (This is the curse of unfree standards.) Any clue about how to get an authoritative answer? I'll hold off from adding more data from this source until we know more. 81.168.80.170 (talk) 19:52, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm impressed that you found that spreadsheet, but I'm not convinced that it serves any purpose to include codes from before the adoption of ISO 4217 in 1978, since they're simply generally unknown and of course they would never have been used at the time that the currency units were current, since the standard didn't exist at the time. I fear this information is simply too obscure to be useful - I always thought I was quite well informed in this area, and these codes are new to me! Sorry to have reverted your edits - there's currently low-level vandalism to a number of obsolete currency articles where units have been replaced by others (old and new Turkish lira for instance) where vandals keep claiming that the old units can be exchanged for new ones at par, and I was concerned that your edits were more of the same misinformation. You can revert me if you wish, though I think I'd prefer pre-1978 codes not to be used. I'll post a query on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Numismatics to see if there are more opinions. -- Arwel (talk) 01:06, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
  • I found the codes useful myself, in some work that involves historical exchange rates. They're useful to identify the currency now, even if they weren't used contemporaneously. 81.168.80.170 (talk) 15:47, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
    • In general I would support the inclusion of "historical" ISO codes if they are actually from ISO and are therefore used in discussions of historical currencies. Is there evidence from ISO to support the spreadsheet?
      Dove1950 (talk) 19:18, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Deletion of your user page

Restored; my apologies. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 20:27, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Terrestrial Time revision of 2006 April 28

I just wanted to thank you (at this late date) for your work on the Terrestrial Time article, and now also to express interest in, and a certain amount of admiration for, your (former?) principled stand for keeping the viewpoint of an unregistered and anonymous editor. --arkuat (talk) 02:05, 10 May 2008 (UTC)