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[edit] Requested move

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[edit] 7-Up → 7 Up

7 Up's corporate site [1] spells the drink 7 UP; 7 Up seems a reasonable compromise. —tregoweth 07:01, Jan 4, 2005 (UTC)

Compromise with what? -- Naive cynic 19:49, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Not much point in this move. Leave it where it is with all the redirects in place. Add Seven Up and Seven up. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 19:18, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Oppose. I always thought it had a dash anyway, and even if it doesnt, the move is pointless.
Support - it's a proper name of a brand, there's no need to argue with the producer. Halibu tt 20:27, Jan 6, 2005 (UTC)
Support - there are 60 ways to spell this. I prefer 7 Up. -- Netoholic @ 23:44, 2005 Jan 6 (UTC)
Support. Just as we have 7[-]Up's sister-brand, Dr Pepper. Peter O. (Talk) 00:29, Jan 8, 2005 (UTC)
Support: go with official name Cburnett 07:48, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Light

Here in the UK they seem to have replaced diet 7-up with 7-up light. I'm not a regular drinker, but it seems to me that the new thing is significantly more drinkable than its rather metallic predecessor. Is this just a rebranding (with the taste difference in my mind) or a reformulation? -- John Fader (talk | contribs) 17:47, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

No, you're right. The 7up Light is far better than Diet 7up, but still not as good as regular. --X 0 01:14, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image

Any chance of someone adding a pic of the can or logo under fair use? (as seen in Dr Pepper and Coca-Cola) -- Lochaber 12:53, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Talk of the videogame

Why don't you add a section about Cool Spot a game create just to advertise 7 Up? ---- 62.101.126.219 (sig added by Cburnett)

Why don't you? Cburnett 23:30, May 1, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Spokesperson

I was born in the late 70's, but as long as I can remember, 7-up has always used african american spokesmen. From the James Earl Jones-like character of my childhood who referring to caffiene said "Never had it, never will" to the 2000's spokesmen who challenged us to "Make 7, up yours!"

I don't know if there is a story to be told here or not, but maybe someone out there can give us more information about 7 Up's affinity for hiring african american spokesmen. It is something I have always appreciated the company for, though I am not old enough to know how far back the trend goes. --Measure 22:53, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

A related comment - before he achieved more fame, wasn't Orlando Jones a spokesperson for the beverage? If so, this could be noted in the advertising section.

[edit] Uncola

The article asserts: In the 1970s, an advertising campaign dubbed 7 Up the "un-cola," playing on the drink's lack of caffeine. As one who remembers that campaign, I'd like to say that it never entered my mind that "uncola" has anything to do with caffeine. Rather, it simply plays on the fact that the flavor is something other than cola. In other words, the two biggest soft drinks (Coke and Pepsi) are colas, but 7 Up is not a cola, it is the un-cola. I'd like to change this part of the text. What do others think?--Keeves 15:11, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Your personal memory and perception of the campaign does not mean that the company didn't intend that meaning of UNCOLA. That being said, based on the brief history[2] at the DPSU company site, a major "No Caffeine" campaign began in 1982, while the UNCOLA campaign began in 1967, so the line could use some revision to reflect at least the date. Research to find some references to the UNCOLA campaign full intent and meaning is probably in order however. Autiger 00:23, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

What about "Make Seven. Up Yours"?66.41.66.213 01:37, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lime 7up

I definatly remember there being Lime flavoured 7up for a brief period around 1996/97 in Ireland. It was like normal 7up, with a stronger taste of lime. I think there was also raspberry 7up around the same time.

The "7"

[edit] The "7"

I have a chemistry text book with a whole page dedicated to 7-up. It says the reason why it's called "7" up is because lithium's atomic mass was known to be about 7 at the time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.3.55.137 (talk • contribs).

Quite. Lithium has the atomic number 3, not 7. You had me worried about my knowledge of elementary chemistry there for a minute... 79.68.143.101 (talk) 03:47, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Another version for the origin of the name

This website claims that "Coca-Cola came in 6-ounce bottles[...] Seven-Up originally got its name, because it defiantly went one ounce up from Coke." [3] I have no idea whether this is true or not, but it certainly sounds more plausible than the oft-heard pH theory. Itub 23:17, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Health

Growing up my mom always gave me 7 Up when I had a stomachache. And I know that was the case with other people I know too. If other people agree, maybe a section on 7 Up's usage as a health remedy is in order.

It's not really a health "remedy" as it is a stomach-friendly way of getting fluids and glucose into a patient who can't keep any real food down. But yeah, it was almost as ubiquitous during sick times as chicken soup in my house, and might deserve such a mention, but probably not a whole section. --X 0 01:12, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

When I was a kid, my mother made the same use of ginger ale. When my own kids were little, I gave them club soda because it had no sugar. My wife's mother apparently depended on Coke. It's not any special properties of 7-Up, it's the carbonation that settles the stomach. --Michael K. Smith 19:56, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] High Fructose Corn Syrup

The final paragraph discussing HFCS's health implications seems out of place for this article.

7-up is NOT all natural if it contains high fructose corn syrup.

Too much anti-HFCS nonsense
I avoid HFCS as much as the next hypocritical bastard, but the rant about HFCS metabolic processes seems WAY out of place and takes the article out of itself and into the obsessive ramblings of an over zealous HFCS crusader.

Take it out, please!

For god's sake, corn syrup is almost pure glucose and adding fructose to it gives it the same basic composition as plain table sugar, sucrose (fructose + glucose). These chemicals aren't "natural" or "artificial", they just exist as combinations of molecules.

Exactly, whether you extract the chemicals from plants, or synthesise them in a lab you're doing the same thing. How on earth can a fizzy drink be natural anyway? Natural 7-up would, I suppose, be a bucket of water with a lemon, a lime and a sugar cane stuck in it.--217.154.33.122 14:25, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Corn syrup can't be called artificial anyway, I mean, what is CORN if not natural? Does corn come from space all of a sudden? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.72.21.221 (talk) 04:26, 1 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Copyright?

Does the 7 Up corporation claim copyright over the red dot? It's their mascot, after all. Can I get sued for posting a picture of a red dot? JIP | Talk 12:40, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:7up100new.JPG

Does this "artist's interpretation" of the 7 Up can bother anyone else? It's not difficult to a photo of the can to show readers what one really looks like. howch e ng {chat} 23:03, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Me. I'll move the can to the infobox place. I'll also take a picture of a 7 Up glass bottle and put it in the can's former place (once I both have my camera back and get all the dust off the bottle). — SheeEttin {T/C} 19:00, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] benzene

The advertising section contained a note on benzene in soft drinks, which I have removed as it had nothing to do with 7 Up advertising and was also not quite correct:

Unlike most available lemon-lime sodas, 7 Up does not contain the toxic combination of citric acid and sodium benzoate. Citric acid (vitamin C) is fine on its own however, upon combination with Sodium Benzoate, Benzene is formed. Benzene is used as a gasoline additive and is toxic to the human organism.

While it is true that 7 Up does not contain sodium benzoate, the concern about the formation of benzene in soft drinks is with regards to the combination of ascorbic acid (vitamin C) (or a related compound, erythorbic acid) and sodium benzoate (a preservative). Also, the level of formation of benzene in the drink, if any, is dependent on the drink's exposure to heat and light.

A relevant citation is here: Benzene production from decarboxylation of benzoic acid in the presence of ascorbic acid and a transition-metal catalyst (Gardner & Lawrence, 1993)

Citric acid and benzoates alone have not been shown to be a problem, although some research suggests that if the initial ascorbic acid and sodium benzoate reaction takes place, citric acid can accelerate the formation of benzene.

It is also not necessarily true that "most" lemon-lime sodas contain the possibly hazardous combination, which has been removed from a great many of the major lemon-lime brands. The best advice is to check the label, but even sodas that have been found to contain benzene should not be a major concern to the average consumer. The levels are far lower than those consumed daily during the course of a normal diet and almost all are within the EPA limits for water contamination.

If you are concerned, simply avoid those sodas containing sodium benzoate (or, less commonly, potassium benzoate) and ascorbic acid (also known as vitamin C). Better yet, stick to water for your thirst needs.

[edit] 7up Ice

There's another variation here in Ireland called 7up Ice, and there also used to be a fruit-flavoured one I can't remember the name of.--Occono 13:31, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bib-Label Lithiated Lemon-Lime

There's ten syllables in that, not seven. 204.69.40.13 17:34, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I had just noticed this, however I pronounce it, there's definately not 7 syllables. 213.48.15.234 13:55, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. Is it just us un-signed-in users that notice? 80.189.172.110 19:26, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

I noticed it too. I'm taking it out unless somebody wants to explain it. 57.66.65.3 (talk) 09:09, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 7 up dnL

Why no mention of this? This was an "upside down" spin on 7up, hence dnL. The bottles where clear and the beverage color was green. Anyone remember this from somewhere around 2003?

[edit] Name Origin section

The Name Origin section of this article has a lot of shifty grammar in it. Anyone bored with a little free time on thier hands, feel free to clean it up. Me? I'm not that bored.....yet.

Kronos o 22:47, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fact check

According to this article, "From the 1960s to the 1990s, 7 Up was billed as "the un-Cola", particularly in a series of ads featuring actor/choreographer Geoffrey Holder. In one commercial, he held a kola nut in one hand and an "un-Cola nut" (a lemon or lime) in the other." Is this true? If so, can we get a reference? - Ta bu shi da yu 08:42, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yet another theory on the origin of the name

When I was a boy, my grandmother told me an interesting story. She said that when she was growing up in New York (probably Scarsdale), the family that started 7-Up lived across the street from her. She said that they named their soda "7" simply because there were seven members of the family. She didn't say exactly what the "up" stood for, however. Back then sodas tended to be made locally and many families, stores and restaurants made their own. She said the family's soda became very popular and they quickly grew it into a successful company. She heard this directly from the family members she knew who ran the business initially. It seems unlikely to me that she would have fabricated it or gotten the facts wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peddle4ever (talk • contribs) 20:35, 1 June 2008 (UTC)