Talk:76 mm gun M1

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[edit] Wikified Table, Before reorganization

Published Source	Gun Type	Ammunition	Penetration at range
Published Source	Gun Type	Ammunition	500 m	1000 m
Foss, Chris, Artillery of the World, 1974	Soviet 85 mm	Standard Armour-Piercing High-Explosive (APHE)	N/A	102 mm
Foss, Chris, Artillery of the World, 1974	Soviet 85 mm	High-Velocity Armour-Piercing (HVAP)	N/A	130 mm
Bovington Tank Museum, Fire and Movement, 1975	Soviet 85 mm	Armour-Piercing Capped Ballistic Capped (APCBC)	103 mm	94 mm
	US 76 mm	APCBC	94 mm	89 mm
	US 76 mm	HVAP	158 mm	134 mm
Hunnicutt, R. P., Sherman: A History of the American Medium Tank, 1978	US 76 mm	Armour-Piercing Capped (APC) M62	93 mm	88 mm
	US 76 mm	HVAP M93	157 mm	135 mm
Woodman, Harry, Tank Armament in World War Two, 1991	Soviet 85mm	APC	96 mm	88 mm
	Soviet 85mm	HVAP	121 mm	80 mm
	US 76 mm	APCBC	94 mm	89 mm
	US 76 mm	HVAP	158 mm	134 mm
Zaloga, Steven J. and Grandsen, James, Soviet Tanks and Combat Vehicles of World War Two, 1984	Soviet 85 mm	APHE (BR-365)	111 mm	102 mm
	Soviet 85 mm	Armour-Piercing, Composite Rigid (APCR) (BR-365P)	138 mm	100 mm
Zaloga, Steven J. and Sarson, Peter, Sherman Medium Tank, 1993	US 76 mm	APC (M61)	98 mm	90 mm
	US 76 mm	HVAP (T-4)	150 mm	132 mm

This table is the wikification of the previous text block. When wikifying, I first created this table and then decided to reorganize it. The wikified (but never saved) table is the above. –Dvandersluis 17:34, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect proposal

I propose that we redirect this to a "76 mm gun (US)" or similarly named page that includes the AA and 3 inch M7 guns too. Thank you.Wikist 14:42, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

You mean you want to merge the article with 3-inch M1918 gun ? I don't think it's good idea. Bukvoed 12:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, because both are short articles they share a family tree (M1 uses the same shell as the M7 that is on the other page and so M7 penetration is here on the M1 page). We might even add the M32 to avoid an M32 stub article (see how M6 is on 75 mm Gun (US).Wikist 19:40, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

For what it is worth, I agree with Bukvoed. It seems illogical to place the M1 into the same article as the M7 since they used very dissimilar complete rounds. The fact that they used the same projectile is a separate issue based solely on the need to rush the M1 into production, and does not seem sufficient reason to "join" them in the same article. On a related note I should point out that the penetration chart does not include the figures for the most common combat ranges over 1,000 yards.14thArmored 1500 Hours 22 November 2006

[edit] Question regarding caliber

I've read several places that the M1 gun on the upgraded M4 was in fact a 76,2mm gun, even though it's called a 76mm gun. Is this accurate?(No, I'm not confusing it with the 17 pounder)83.109.86.72 (talk) 15:57, 25 February 2008 (UTC)