User talk:76.105.150.19

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[edit] Your (The) Lord/Lady edits

There's a discussion to be had, you shouldn't just go ahead and make controversial edits. Please bear this in mind in future † DBD 22:17, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

There is no need for a discussion! Some things are simply wrong and need to be corrected. I don't need to have a discussion to know the correct form for titles in the British, Irish, Scottish or UK peerages, and I certainly don't need one for titles in the royal house or the royal family of any monarchy.

It's irresponsible to leave incorrect information in an "encylopedia" while a discussion is had between persons who may or may not come by to post again for weeks or months.

I would also point out that no one bothered to cite anything for removing the definative article. Opinion and conjecture simply aren't good enough. There are many incorrect uses of titles on Wikipedia. For example HRH The Duke of York is always THE Duke of York never - ever - Andrew, Duke of York or The Prince Andrew, Duke of York, ect...When writing an article on a person who holds a title it is extremely important that the title be listed and used correctly, or else, Wikipedia is just perpetuating incorrect information. Definative articles are required on many British titles e.g. The Prince of Wales, The Princess Royal (which is really a style not a title), The Duke of York, The Earl Spencer, The Duke of Westminster, ect... When writing about a past holder of said title it is generally preferred to list the title with numbers. E.g. The 4th Duke of Westminster, ect... George, Prince of Wales is inaccurate as is Prince Charles, Prince of Wales.

You could send a letter to the Lord Chamberlain or to any artistocratic family who's members have use of courtesy titles. You could check The Almanch de Gotha, any of Marlene Koenig's (nee Eilers) excellent publications. Burke's was generally accurate before Harold Brooks-Baker took over in 1984 and ceased to care if the information he printed was accurate. Debrett's is generally more accurate than Burke's. Where the two disagree it is better to side with Debrett if you lack the ability or interest to do your own research.

I've spent the last 12 years of my life doing research on nobility and royalty of every variety. If a discussion is to be had concerning the matter it needs to be had on one of the reputable message boards concerning royalty. The message boards that are administered by Dag or Robert are a good place to start. These boards have regular contributers that are respected authors and life long reseachers of royalty and nobility not in Wikipedia where most of those speculating on the topic gather their information from tabloid press or inaccurate newspaper articles.

Francois Velde's section on royality and nobility is also well researched.

[edit] Your recent edits

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I always sign my edits and comments to discussion pages. -- Queen Brandissima —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.105.150.19 (talk) 08:49:44, August 19, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

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