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[edit] Fantasy Basketball

While your contributions to the page are appreciated, WP is not a barter system, whereby you can trade your information for a link. We aren't here to help you advertise your website for all of its merits. The open directory should be more than enough to provide information to people who are seeking more information about fantasy basketball. I have made a comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam and the admins can make a final determination on the staus of the link. Montco (talk) 17:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

There's where you are wrong, it is not our intention to "advertise" for our page, it is a valid Fantasy Basketball link. As is the more appropriate DMOZ FB Leagues page. If that is the case then the external link to NBA Fantasy Games is "advertising" for NBA.com and is an inappropriate link as well. Please read the discussion page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FBF Commish (talk • contribs) 18:06, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Montco is correct. We have a link to the DMOZ page on the fantasy baseball article. With that there, there is no need for direct links to any specific fantasy baseball site. Wikipedia is not a directory of links and adding your site does not enhance the article. Since you appear to be involved in the site, please also read our policy on conflicts of interest. Please do not re-add your link to the article. Continuing to do so will result in you being blocked from editing. Thanks,Gwernol 18:31, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


There's where you are wrong, it is a valid Fantasy Basketball link. As is the more appropriate DMOZ FB Leagues page. If that is not the case then the external link to NBA Fantasy Games is "advertising" for NBA.com and is an inappropriate link as well. Further, which I have stated will document in edits, much of the material provided by us initially. Please read the discussion page, as I will be editing the page back to it's premorphed & more relevant/pertinent version to Fantasy Basketball players and people who have an interest in that subject (ie: people that would actually use the page for their benefit). I will also be adding back many External Links that I feel are pertinent to the issue, again that are in the best interests of the people who would use the page/article, which I had planned on doing next week (see discussion page) but will move up that timetable. I may be mistaken, but from your comments it would appear as though this is not an area of expertise for you and therefore do not have an accurate understanding of what the average person who is interested in thsi subject would find useful. Although your comments and intensions behind policing Wiki are well intended, they should be directed to areas which you have a more accurate understanding as to what may or may not be pertinent —Preceding unsigned comment added by FBF Commish (talk • contribs) 18:34, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I may not have your insider's perspective on fantasy baseball, but I have a pretty strong understanding of Wikipedia's rules, which you seem not to have. Please read our policy on what Wikipedia is not: Wikipedia is not a repository of links to sites. We choose instead to link to DMOZ which explicitly is a repository of such links. Similarly, I am aware of our rules on conflicts of interest and our specific guidelines on external links. Perhaps you should familiarize yourself on these, because you are not a neutral party in this and you cannot post that link to the fantasy baseball site. Gwernol 18:50, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

It is indeed a shame that you are acting in the manner of a self-righteous Wikipedian. As someone who is not only a credentialed member of the press but a Fantasy Basketball insider it is (or was as per you I am no longer allowed to edit this page) my intention to revamp this page to better inform and contribute to Fantasy Basketball players knowledge and enjoyment of the game including 1) sources that are and have historically been useful in informing Fantasy Basketball players (for which I have a list of external links to which I have a vested interest in none), 2) Varied league types, formats, guidelines, and settings (which I had originally in the article with no links but for some reason have over time also been deleted), and 3) Lists and Suggestions of "How To's", etc of running, joining, or playing in a Fantasy Basketball league (again with no external links in this area). However you would prefer that active as well as potential or interested Fantasy Basketball players (not Baseball mind you) not have access or be made aware this information. I have not edited any pages on the "Boer Wars" for example, as I am not knowledgable enough in the area to be qualified to do so, yet in this area where I am you feel that you have a better grasp of what is useful to Fantasy Basketball players without having that knowledge or understanding, including external links to DMOZ (who's links have become quite outdated as well a a number are no longer valid - how that is relevant or beneficial to anyone I have no idea) and an "advertising" link to NAB.com's Office Fantasy Games (not NBA the news source mind you). It was my understanding that part of Wiki's function or purpose was to "inform" and "educate", however I did not realize that had changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.42.72.220 (talk • contribs)

If you wish to add information with accompanying independent, published sources you are very welcome to. The only problem I have is if you continue to add a link to a website that you are involved with and which does not meet Wikipedia's guidelines on external links. These are not my rules, but the rules of the encyclopedia and the community of editors who work here. If you don't agree with the rules you are, like anyone else, welcome to suggest improvements. In this case the place to make that suggestion is the talk page for the guidelines: Wikipedia talk:External links. In the meantime, we ask that all editors abide by the rules that are currently in place. This is neither unreasonable, nor "self-righteous" as you so eloquently put it. You are entitled to edit any page as long as you stay within the rules. Gwernol 20:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] February 2008

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
The next time you insert a spam link, as you did to Fantasy basketball, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Persistent spammers may have their websites blacklisted as well, preventing anyone from linking to them from all of Wikipedia. Gwernol 18:51, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

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