Talk:7.65 x 53 mm Mauser

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I've asked this page to be moved to a page without the extra space between the x and 53. I can't do this myself because of the numerous redirect pages that already exist. Once this page is moved to "7.65x53mm Belgian Mauser", that should be the end as that seems to match the consensus over on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms#Naming_conventions_for_ammunition. -- Tad Marko 19:14, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] 7.65x53mm Belgian

This cartridge is more correctly called the 7.65x53mm Belgian Mauser. I think the content of this article moved to an article with that name and then forwarders placed on this page. I can do this soon if nobody objects.—Preceding unsigned comment added by TXTad (talk • contribs) 05:49, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Contested move request

The following request to move a page has been added to Wikipedia:Requested moves as an uncontroversial move, but this has been contested by one or more people. Any discussion on the issue should continue here. If a full request is not lodged within five days of this request being contested, the request will be removed from WP:RM. —Dekimasuよ! 07:30, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

  • Contested: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Firearms#Naming conventions for ammunition is not a naming convention, but a discussion about the idea of having such a naming convention, and the unspaced nomenclature conflicts directly with Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers) (MOSNUM). For now the article should be at 7.65 × 53 mm Belgian Mauser (note × not x) with 7.65 x 53 mm Belgian Mauser, 7.65 × 53mm Belgian Mauser, 7.65 x 53mm Belgian Mauser, 7.65×53mm Belgian Mauser, and 7.65x53mm Belgian Mauser existing as redirects. MOSNUM does make some exceptions to the "space before and after ×" and possibly also the "space before units" and "× not x" rules, but no case has been made at MOSNUM for such exceptions with regard to firearms, and WikiProjects should not be implementing new exceptions without wider consensus. PS: As noted at the project discussion referred to above, if there is no other notable 7.65 ammo type, then the "53mm" part need not be in the name (I have no idea on that question). — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 21:33, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
The WP:GUNS and WP:MILHIST project consensus is, basically, that the WPMOS is inconsistent with current, real-world usage in relation to cartridge names, and more importantly, the cartridge names are designations and not mathematical equations. I thought you guys had been told about it, to be honest. --Commander Zulu 10:33, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

The titles of the talk page and the article don't currently agree, which makes it harder to figure out what an "oppose" !vote means. Dekimasuよ! 16:11, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

This has expired, but the talk pages are still messed up, a full request wasn't made, and there was no further discussion. Please feel free to fix the talk page location and/or initiate a full request. Dekimasuよ! 01:33, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I guess I don't know what a full request is. I thought that I understood that adding the move request to the talk page was it. Regardless of the discussion on the Firearms talk page, this article still has some naming problems that I don't know how to fix. The spaces should be removed from in between the numbers and the x, and regardless of whether they are or not, the title of the page doesn't match the address of the page. I haven't the slightest idea of how that can happen or how to fix it. The talk page not matching the naming of the article page is another thing that I don't understand. How is a talk page linked to an article page that doesn't match the naming of the article page? -- Tad Marko (talk) 03:27, 8 December 2007 (UTC)