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--ScienceApologist 19:28, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Here is your prose removed again until you substantiate why you wanted to include it:

"From a moral and philosophical point of view the idea that the cause of all existing things is GOD and therefore all things are a creation of GOD is not disturbing in itself and does not interfere with the ultimate goal of science which is not to prove or not the existence of GOD or any deity but rather understand the mechanisms by which cause and effect take place that ultimatly shaped Nature and the Universe as we know today. Even though one can argue that the primary cause is GOD, it should not hamper science to shed a light on the physical mechanisms by which matter reacts to each other either in the realm of the infinitely small or the infinitely big. Saying that GOD is the primary cause of evolution is not a problem at all, but trying to use science to demonstrate the existance of GOD is a mistake, first because whatever the cause is science wants to know how things are related to one another from a physical point of view, second the Human history has shown us from the old Egypt to the modern Christian-Judeo-Islamic world that every attempt to prove GOD through science is swayed to match the religious creeds in order to confirm them and the authority of the religious order vis-a-vis other religious believes. The biggest tabu of Creationism is to admit the possibility that the GOD they refer to as the intelligent designer and the ultimate cause of all the phenomena in Nature and in the Universe (or even the primary cause of evolution)is not the GOD mentioned in any religious scriptures, neither the Islamic nor the Christian-Judeo's, but a GOD yet to be discovered and known. This is precisely the core of the problem trying to use science for a religious purpose, since science has no preconception of the ultimate cause of the Universe and Life and is free to unvail the Creator that He or She is if any, and religion is fettered to abid by its scriptures and believes to survive. "

--ScienceApologist 22:25, 1 April 2006 (UTC)