User talk:70.17.183.28

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[edit] Redlinks

I'm not going to revert your recent OLTL edits, but what does how long a link has been red have to do with it? Per the Manual of Style, "links do not have an expiration date, beyond which they must be 'fixed.' "If there is a reasonable chance an article will be created (and cast, staff and crew of network television shows are potentially notable), the links should stay red so that they are active when the article is created. Some are just nonexistent because their subjects aren't "sexy" enough, not that they're not notable or deserving. I mean, Linda Gottlieb directed Dirty Dancing, she should probably have an article, and when someone gets around to create it, she won't be backlinked properly to OLTL because you don't like to see red. It'd be one thing if you were picking and choosing based on notability, but you're not. And by the way, linking January and 2006 or whatever has no value, it should be January 2006. And sorry if I sound like a jerk, don't mean to. — TAnthonyTalk 03:56, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Red links are the same as black letters. I understand this clearly, but red links are as important as a dead leaf on the ground. If something is in black lettering (such as a name, show, etc.), then it is pretty obvious that there is no page for it. Do most of the other soap pages have red links on them? Not really, because they go no where. And by the way, you ARE a jerk. You don't own the world, in fact, no one does. SO QUIT ACTING LIKE YOU DO!!!!

BYEEEEEEE!!!70.17.183.28 (talk) 07:03, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

If you think red links are the same as no links, then leave them alone; some people care about navigation even if you don't. And I never said I owned the world, I just indicated that you don't know what you're doing. Which is obvious. — TAnthonyTalk 22:19, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
I was actually going to leave a similar message here, 70.17.183.28; your personal preferences aside, TAnthony is correct, if you look at the link he provided above: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links)#Red (internal) links. Granted, some of these people may never have or need articles, but some will. And by the way, TAnthony's comments were thoughtful, while yours are rude and pretty much in violation of standard WP etiquette. Are you in high school? The fact that you're still a random IP user seems to indicate that you prefer to remain anonymous so you can do whatever misguided edits you choose and insult other editors (who have more experience, I might add). Please step back for a moment and consider this. TheRhani (talk) 23:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GH title sequence dates

Please do not change the debut date for GH's speeding ambulance opening. I have connections to vintage soap traders who have confirmed the dates through their material. Also, removing information on a single theme/visuals package, as if it didn't exist, could be considered vandalism. Thank you. -numbaonestunna —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.174.202.197 (talk) 00:24, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] There were FIVE openings, and stop reverting my edits!

If you read the GH title sequences section carefully, you will see that there are five different openings in the show's history. The hospital negative visual and the black/blue title displays were NOT part of the same package. The scene of the doctors and nurses walking around, which turns into a negative image, only ran April to December 1963. The visuals then changed in December 1963 to the title and credits against the black, then blue backgrounds. According to the personal sources I have (including a vintage soap collector known as WashesWhiter on YouTube), this second package ran until no later than April 1975. I am in the process of finding out the exact end date from WW at this time.

I would really appreciate it if you would stop reverting my edits. The GH opening dates you are getting from that Yahoo! groups page are erroneous, and the speeding ambulance/LA-USC visuals that ran until 1993 did not start in July 1976 (in fact, they started over a year before)..only Jack Urbont's "Autumn Breeze" did. Also, if you feel so certain that the second theme package did not exist, how do you think I found a screenshot from it (which I did not make myself)? Hmmm.. -numbaonestunna

Quit putting words in my mouth. I never said that the Speeding Ambulance opening started in July 1976. It started in July 1973. I have been watching this show since the beginning, and I have shows from the early 70s. It is the same opening, just in color. Please quit acting like you know everything!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.17.183.28 (talk • contribs) 15:19, February 17, 2008

Hey, I know alot, so there's no need to be THAT rude. I just might know everything :) You DID revert my edits to a version that said the speeding ambulance began in July 1976. If you really have watched GH since the beginning you would know that the visuals introduced in December 1963 no longer used the shot of the doctors and nurses walking around. Also, the Kip Walton theme used from then on was a remixed version of the piano theme used during the first eight months. You claim to have episodes in your possesion from the early 1970s. Have you ever shared them online at WoST or on YouTube? WashesWhiter is a very prolific, not to mention a very reputable vintage soap collector who has contributed for both sites. He says the LA-USC visuals were new around April 1975, with George Wright's piano theme. Also, the copyright information of Wright's theme from the piece's music publisher notes that it was first used on GH during the "second quarter" (April to June) of 1975.

I would like your thoughts on all this. I guess the mystery of the end of the black/blue visuals and beginning of the LA-USC package will remain a mystery until more early 1970s GH material surfaces online. -numbaonestunna

I am going to straighten things out...

Black & White opening (1963-1973|both black and white and in color) Speeding Ambulance opening (1973-1993|Two themes) Faces of the Heart opening (1993-2004) Sirens opening (2004-present)

Just because the original opening was later shown in color doesn't make it a whole new opening. I've seen this opening many times, as well as the B&W version, it is the same. And by the way, I never read this on Yahoo!, but on many other sites, and I actually have the opening on DVD. So basically, you are creating and posting false information.

OK, there is something you keep missing here. There was not ONE, but TWO different openings used between 1963 and the mid-1970s. Do you not understand the concept that once visuals change with openings, mid-bumpers, and closings that it then constitutes a new package altogether? I'm not sure if you were the editor who originally created the title sequences section, but for as long as the GH article has existed, two different openings have been described alongside the original April 1963 title card. Just because the theme music that went with the black & blue baackground visuals was similiar to the one used over the doctors & nurses visuals, does not mean they are one package.