Talk:6 February 1934 crisis

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The same far right which in the future will reveal its real intentions with the slogan: "BETTER HITLER THAN BLUN!" and delivered its country to the nazis.

[edit] Dates

Hi Superjumbo! Concerning your change of dates format, I must tell you that I completely disagree with your move. Most will consider it without any importance, but if you bothered yourself to change it it shows that at least you do consider it with importance. Well, I must tell you that your argument "France uses international time" (international time? which country doesn't?) doesn't carry much weight. Date formating is only a personal preference. However, many users seems rather used to the February 6, 1934 date format. And we're on the English wikipedia. Personally, although I am not a native English speaker, I am used in English with this date formatting, and I see no reason to privilege your preferences over standard ones. Hence reversal of your page move, and soon reversal of your page formatting. Hope you don't see this as the beginning of an argument, the stakes are quite low, but you must understand that this only a question of personal preference which no logical argumentation will solve (unless, perhaps, the fact that most people are used to writing February 6, 1934 and not 6 February, 1934. We could also move the page to 6 of February, 1934, but I don't think that's the way to proceed.) Cheers! Tazmaniacs 17:32, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. This is covered in the Manual of Style - I urge you to consult the source and argue your case on the talk page, which is the proper course of action. Individual consensus for individual changes when following guidelines is not required - consensus has already been found on a WP-wide basis. Could you read the MoS, please? And I would appreciate it if you could go back and undo your reverts of my careful work. --Jumbo 17:48, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Concur with Jumbo on this. Additionally, many English speakers do, in fact, use the format 6 February 1934 (no commas). It's not simply a European format (oddly enough, the birthplace of English, England, is in Europe) as the US military also uses dates in this manner. So, besides being covered in the Manual of Style, there are, in fact, many English speakers who do use this format. --Habap 18:53, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Tazmaniacs. The Manual of Style does not say that articles concerning France (for example) should have dates in the style "6 February". The MOS says that articles concerning the UK, Australia, etc. should have dates in that style; articles concerning US and Canada should have the style "February 6", and "Elsewhere, either format is acceptable." Since either format is acceptable for articles relating to non-English-speaking countries, we should go with the format used by the first significant contribution to the article. --Mathew5000 03:04, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Wrong. It gives the examples of the UK, Australia, etc but it clearly means that if there is a clear national usage (and on most of the planet that is what is known as international dating dd/mm/yyyy, not American dating mm/dd/yyyy) that is what should be used. Only where there is not a clear national preference is it then left up to the editor. That is the understanding that has been used here since we first agreed on the rule a long time ago. Super Jumbo is 100% correct. If others had spotted the error of this page having been placed under American dating when France does not use that, they would have moved it. Luckily the error was spotted. FearÉIREANN\^(caint) 03:40, 17 August 2006 (UTC)