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Sorry that our first interaction was a disagreement, but regardless, welcome to Wikipedia. I removed the item saying that the quote is wrong because the item just says it's wrong, without providing a cite. Give a quote from somebody explaining why it's wrong, or lay out why some people would say it's wrong, and there's no problem. You can report outside sources saying he's wrong. But the article itself can't make that assertion.
You can make yourself a user account quite easily by clicking the Log in/Create an Account button on the top right of your screen. You can sign your posts, again, by typing "~~~~". --Mr. Billion 11:19, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
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Please re-read my words. I do not call the quote 'wrong'. I merely point out that it is hearsay thrice removed. I also offered to readers the fact that it does not appear in the Qur'an and it is not recognized as authentic by Imam Bukhari, the foremost islamic scholar and compiler of Hadiths. I strongly urge you to read more about Imam Bukhari, as there is an excellent article about him on Wikipedia.
How can I supply you with a source that the quote is not from the Qur'an without reciting for you in its entirety the full Qur'an?
The onus of proof falls on anyone who would claim it is in the Qur'an to show where it is. It isn't.
How can I supply you with a source that the quote is not from Bukhari's collection of 7275 hadiths unless I recite for you the collection in its entirety? here is a link to Imam Bukhari
The onus of proof falls on anyone who would claim the hadith is Bukhari's, to show where he says so. He doesn't.
The hadith actually comes from Bukhari's student, Muslim, as is cited in the article. But Muslim (that's his name) lived 200 years after Mohammed. I cite the very quote itself as my source that the hadith is hearsay thrice removed:
""It was mentioned by Daraj Ibn Abi Hatim, that Abu al-Haytham 'Adullah Ibn Wahb narrated from Abu Sa'id al-Khudhri, who heard the Prophet Muhammad (Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) saying, 'The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode where there are eighty thousand servants and seventy two wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as wide as the distance from al-Jabiyyah to San'a. "
Perhaps, like most people influenced by anti-muslim media, you have heard for years that Islam promises 72 virgins for martyrs in paradise. This is cited solely to discredit muslims, and their political struggles, in the news. The vast majority of muslims don't beleive this. The few that do are citing Muslim's hadith. Please don't confuse the words 'Muslim's hadith' with the words "Muslim hadith". Most muslims do not recognize Muslim as an authoritative scholar on the Hadith. That honor is solely Bukhari's.
AymanG 12:24, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
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