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[edit] Natassja Noctis

This looks like it would be a difficult case to make. Of the bands she's been in, only one, Skullkrusher, currently has an article, and to be honest with you, without more reliable sources, that article will probably eventually be deleted. And, just taking a look on Google, there are at least three other bands called Skullkrusher and none of them seem to stand out (perhaps the Finnish group scores highest, as they at least have an Encyclopedia Metallum entry). Skullkrusher doesn't have an Allmusic entry and isn't listed in my Great Metal Discography. Gravemist once had an article but it was deleted; there's a residual copy here, but I can't see the band passing Wiki's requirements again. They seem to be a mostly local group that hasn't gotten much outside coverage, at least not online. Do you have any paper magazines that discuss these groups? I don't have access to the zine that is mentioned in the Skullkrusher article, unfortunately, but it might help.

As for Noctis herself, her albums appear to be more or less self-released, and the blog interview, while nice, isn't likely to pass for a good source, because anybody can set up a blogspot page and interview a musician; we'd need a more reputable, published source. Her albums haven't been reviewed in any major publications that I can see. She seems simply too new and too local to pass muster. The award she won (from the PittRadio website) is the strongest evidence we have yet, so maybe if that wins her more notice in the near future we'll have more to work with. But, unless there are more paper sources, I doubt I'll be able to put up an article that would survive. Chubbles 23:45, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


Skullkrusher was punk, not a metal band, so they would have no reason to appear in Great Metal Discography or in the Encyclopedia Metallum', however,her other band, Obskurum does have an entry there as they were Black Metal. See: http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=20833

See: USBM list: http://www24.brinkster.com/usbm/index3.html This band did a split CD with Vrolok, who just appeared on the History Channel. They were originally called "Blackreign". They were the first (only?) openly queer US Black Metal band. The award was NOT from Pitt RAdio, that was merely the press release on a music news site. The award was a Prestige award from The American Society of Composers, Authors, and Publishers (ASCAP): see: ascap.com There seems to be hundreds of articles here on alternative/underground artists who self-release their material. That seems to be a matter of personal choice not an issue of popularity or notability. See: Luftwaffe, Death in June, etc... In fact, Radiohead and many major artists do this now as well. She is also the founder of the Therian Temple, author of the book the Therian Bible, and the first person to win an ASCAPlus Award that is openly a member of the Church of Satan. She is a former writer for queerplanet Global Media, and the own of Noctis Cultus Publishing / Media Group which has published Skiteater Zine, Misanthrope Journal, (in the 1990s / early 2000s-- Mangelslakt, MaximumRockNRoll, Slug & lettuce all had reviews of these several times) and Noctigram Magazine (current). Certainly, All That must have some notability..?

Responded on my talk page; seems easier that way. Chubbles 00:23, 7 November 2007 (UTC)