User talk:64.65.248.221

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Please refrain from adding nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to Web 2.0. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. GraemeL (talk) 13:50, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. The links you added to the page BitTorrent have been removed. Please do not add commercial links—or links to your own private websites—to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or a mere collection of external links. You are, however, encouraged to add content instead of links. See the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. — nathanrdotcom (T • C • W) 08:11, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Your edit of the Cell microprocessor article replacing KiB with KB was uninformed. KiB is considered a more correct designation since it unambiguosly specifies binary kilo-bytes (1024 bytes). You're not the first, but it always seems to be the users who don't log in under a username who are rushing to fix what isn't broken. Check twice before you act. MaxEnt 01:53, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh, trust me, I am informed. KiB is quite possibly the most retarded term ever concocted, and life will be a hell of a lot better for everyone if people would stop deliberately trying to prove how "smart" they are by using pedantic SI terms for NON-SI units that should not be measured in Base 10. You only serve to confuse everything. User:64.65.248.221

Your opinion on the matter may not be as informed as you think. The binary prefixes in question are not of SI origin, and your above argument states that you take issue with using SI prefixes (Kilo, Mega, Giga, etc) with non-SI units (byte is not an SI unit) and non-base-ten powers. You seem to be arguing FOR the usage of IEC prefixes while simultaneously removing them from an article. Regardless, this issue has been discussed at length many times and Wikipedia still supports IEC binary prefix usage where appropriate. Furthermore, reverting an article without discussing the changes (after being asked) is considered vandalism and will be reverted wholesale as such. Bring this issue up in the correct place if you think you have something to add that hasn't already been said. -- uberpenguin @ 2006-06-02 14:58Z
Common parlance for over 50 years has referred to KILOBYTE to mean 1024 (2^10) bytes. The pedantic IEC, who has appointed themselves to rule over things like this, has no authority to change terms that have been in existence for 50 years, simply because they do not jive with the SI. Bytes are not SI units, and should never be treated as such. Changing Kilobyte so suddenly mean 10^3 bytes negates 50 years worth of documentation and literature and common sense, and only serves to confuse the hell out of everyone. Not a single rational person actually uses the term "kibibyte" (which sounds like a Dog Food, by the way) to represent anything. Microsoft, Apple, et al, all use Kilobyte to mean 2^10 bytes. Are we to say that they are wrong? Under what authority can you say that? I, for one, will always use KB, will never use KiB, and will change any reference I see to the actual non-confusing term. Stop pretending to be smarter than you actually are.

Please do not remove messages from your talk page. Talk pages exist as a record of communication, and in any case, comments are available through the page history. You're welcome to archive your talk page, but be sure to provide a link to any deleted comments. Thanks. Errabee 13:30, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


I removed those messages because they have absolutely nothing to do with me. I've never changed the bittorrent or the web 2.0 pages.


I have reverted your edit of the Cell microprocessor. I don't know who is right, but I would suggest you try and reach consensus first on the subject with MaxEnt. Reapplying reverted changes can only result in a long protracted edit war, which you cannot win unless you are able to convince the other party. Using terms as retarded and pedantic does not help your case, but everyone here is open to serious arguments. Errabee 13:39, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] 3RR

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. HawkerTyphoon 17:35, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Since when is correcting wrong information considered vandalization?

Since the currrent community concensus is that you are in the wrong. I have a degree in Computer Science, and we tend to use KiB. I'm very sorry if you disagree with the community, but please read WP:3RR if you want to know why what you are doing is considered vandalism. Thanks! HawkerTyphoon 17:41, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, as you did to Caffeine, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. Xyrael T 17:40, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


At this point I really don't care. Absolutely no one uses "kibibyte" and I was correcting the erroneous terms to their proper values. Wikipedia is a community project, representing society as a whole, and society as a whole does not use kibibytes. But because of a few insecure pedants who can't understand that we've been using kilobytes for over 50 years, I was threatened with a ban when I corrected it. I have previously donated money to this site, but I assure you, I will not make that mistake again. Granted, it wasn't a lot, but as they say, everything counts.

A word about standards: A standard is not a standard until the majority of people use it. "Kibibyte" is not used by anyone except the voracious few moderators here who are obsessed with trying to prove how smart they are. Let's put it another way; what if a group came along and redefined a foot as 10 inches? Does that mean that feet are suddenly 10 inches? No. A foot, will be, and always will be, what the majority of people define it as, which is 12 inches.

Along the same lines, a Kilobyte, has always been, and will always be, 2^10 bytes. I've written it as such in my last three books. I'll write it as such in my next book and every other book thereafter. You are deliberately trying to confuse the hell out of everyone by introducing new words and meanings where new words and meanings were not needed, were not confusing, and were accepted as standard.

Good day.


Well put, if a bit shouty. Your best plan would be to convince the Wikipedia community of this. It's not about worldwide concensus, but what the people involved agree o. And they don't agree with you. Out of interest, I'm sitting in the largest Computer Science Library in Wales at the moment - what are these books called? HawkerTyphoon 17:51, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Data Structures for Game Programmers, MUD Game Programming, Beginning C# Game Programming.

I have to agree that anything related to the "bibi" whatever "standard" (which in my mind doesn't exist and never will) is utterly retarded and completely ridiculous. The only reason that it was introduced is because the people that think they're smart (when they're usually not) seem to think that people are too stupid to know the difference between a binary and metric byte (1000 vs. 1024) and want to further confuscate things by adding YET ANOTHER set of definitions to the pre-existing list.

We don't need a re-invented wheel, because it's stupid to fix what isn't broken. And to all of the moderators that think changing a corrupt "standard" to proper terminology, get off your high-horse. You're not smart and posting bogus claims of vandalism makes you all look like horses' rear ends. 24.206.116.6 07:58, 27 April 2007 (UTC)