Talk:4711 (brand)

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[edit] the name of S-4711 In Zamyatin's We

Just a note. In Zamyatin's We, One of the characters is named S-4711... Some say it's an allusion to the cologne. Care to verify? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.104.60.87 (talk • contribs) 02:25, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

This article seems to be saying that there is. I have added a note to the article. --Jtir 14:50, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
JSTOR: Three Russian Writers and the Irrational: Zamyatin, Pil ...
Three Russian Writers and the Irrational: Zamyatin, Pil'nyak, and Bulgakov ...
Zamiatin borrowed the number for S- from 4711 Eau de Co- logne to illustrate ...

[edit] history of 4711

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1792 - the birth of an international brand

In 1792 a Carthusian monk presented the newly-married Mulhens couple a seemingly modest wedding present. But this gift affected their future like no other; as it contained: The secret formula for an "aqua mirabilis", an invigorating medicinal "miracle water" later called "Eau de Cologne". Wilhelm Mulhens quickly recognised the value of this formula and soon after started to build a small factory in the street "Glockengasse" in Cologne.

In 1794, during the period of French occupation in Cologne, the French commander ordered consecutive numbering for all houses. The Mulhens building on "Glockengasse", where "Eau de Cologne" was produced, received the housenumber 4711. In 1875 this number became the registered trademark for the international brand 4711 ORIGINAL EAU DE COLOGNE.

4711 Eau de Cologne. Citrus with traces of rosemary and lavender, a spicy etheral scent for both men and women. Considered a unisex cologne.

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The above text is historical wrong. The story with the monk was invented after 1945. 213.168.95.158 10:38, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rocky Horror

4711 is also the tattoo that can be seen on Dr. Frank N. Furter's leg in Rocky Horror picture show. Just thought I would add that to the discussion :) --TheReverendDoom 17:06, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] use of "4711" by software engineers

[Copied from User talk:Neelvk]. --Jtir 21:40, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi, do you have a verifiable source that describes the use of "4711" by software engineers? --Jtir 08:49, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, when I was working in Frankfurt, Germany as a software engineer in 1992 and 1993, I saw many instances of such usage. When I asked around, I was told that this was very common behavior, akin to using 69 or 105 (69 in octal) in US. I don't know if this qualifies as verifiable source...
Neelvk 00:28, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the additional background. A verifiable source is one that can be cited in the article to allow another editor to verify the text of the article. Using google.com and books.google.com, I have found several examples of the use of "4711" in a SW context, including the first one, which references the perfume. It seems to be used in the same way that "foo" and "bar" are used. --Jtir 22:53, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:02, 2 January 2008 (UTC)