User talk:3 Löwi

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[edit] Welcome! to Wikipedia!

Hello 3 Löwi, this is Exir Kamalabadi, and I hope that you are having fun with Wikipedia. First of all, welcome to Wikipedia! Find something that can be improved, either in content, grammar or formatting, then fix it. Don't be afraid. Be bold! If you do something wrong, there is always someone who will clean up the mess.

Here are some links that you may find helpful:

Here are also some tips that you might find useful:

Finally, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page when you need help!

Exir KamalabadiJoin Esperanza! 01:30, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] T'rima kasih

Thank you for adding id:Allah Anak to God the Son.

Tuhan memberkati Alastair Haines (talk) 11:02, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia (Part II)

This user is a meatpuppet of Digwuren as established by Petri Krohn [1], and has been blocked indefinitely.
See contribs — page moves — all logs — block log


This user is a sock puppet of Alexia Death, and has been blocked indefinitely.
Please refer to this (subsequently reduced to one week) block by administrator [2] for evidence.

Account information: block log – current autoblocks – edits – logs
An editor has expressed a concern that this user may be a sock puppet of Digwuren.
Please refer to Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Digwuren [3] for evidence.

Account information: block log – current autoblocks – edits – logs
An editor has expressed a concern that this user may be a sock puppet of Klamber.
Please refer to Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Digwuren for evidence.

Account information: block log – current autoblocks – edits – logs
An editor has expressed a concern that this user may be a sock puppet of DLX.
Please refer to Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Digwuren for evidence.

Account information: block log – current autoblocks – edits – logs

...and based on personal suspicions of equally strong merit...


An editor has expressed a concern that this user may be a sock puppet of AND meat puppet of many more editors who joined Wikipedia after 3 Löwi.
Please refer to respective edit logs and Wikipedia:Time travel [4] for evidence.

Account information: block log – current autoblocks – edits – logs

[edit] Baltic Russians

Lowi, please see Talk:Baltic Russians before editing the article again. Moonshiner 03:22, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Finnish level 4

Since there are now 4 levels of many languages (plus native), you may wish to upgrade your fi-3 to fi-4 (which I just created), if you feel it is the right thing to do. I contacted you because you were the only other person in category fi-3. --Janke | Talk 23:42, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] way to go

Tervist, lugesin läbi mõned Teie kommentaarid ja olin ausalt öeldes üllatunud nende sügavusest ja autori heast stiilist. Way to go :=))

== Hi! Can you please read up on Help:Renaming (moving) a page before attempting to move pages in the future? Cheers. -- Francs2000 22:50, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

  • Naissaare nimetuses on ikkagi "Nõukogude" (mis on ka loogiline - olemata seejuures muidugi Nõuk. liiduvabariik) - webilehekülje tegija on nähtavasti kirjutanud mälu järgi "Sotsialistlik" ja eksinud. Revolutsioon rullus Eestist Venemaale mitte vastupidi: algas Tallinnas 5. nov., seejärel Piiteris 7. nov. PS. Petrichenko oli anarhosündikalist, st. bolševismivastane. Tervitades, --Tuulispask 12:57, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Please take part in the improval of this article

Hello. I would like to inform you that there is an ongoing discussion at article Territorial claims of the Baltic States (formerly was known as "Lost territories of the Baltic States", but was recently renamed; some users seems to disagree with that renaming). Recent edits as well were accused of POV, and, in fact, article was disputed for a long time already. There are currently no Estonian contributors to that article, therefore your opinion is much needed. It would be nice if you would add that article to your watchlist and continue helping to improve it until a decition will be reached about its future (there is currently a poll about it in the article's talk page). I hope together we all will be able to make that article neutral. Kaiser 747 10:23, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Template:User et-0

[edit] Template:User et-0

Hey. Can you translate the text of Template:User et-0 into Estonian for me (if it hasn't been already when you read this)? Thanks Hedley 00:09, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:180px-Olevistekirik3.jpg

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Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Thank you. bluemask 09:43, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ivangorod

Please say where exactly in the http://www.ivangorod.ru is there a sentence(s) which states that Narva and Ivangorod were considered to be a single city? Thanks in advance Burann 11:56, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Under history: Наступивший шведский период в истории Ивангорода растянулся почти на целое столетие, в течение которого Ивангородская крепость воспринималась исключительно как предместное укрепление Нарвы, составляя с ней единую оборонительную систему. И лишь Петру I, в ходе победоносной Северной войны (в 1704 г.), удалось окончательно вернуть России и Нарву, и Ивангород. Однако значение последнего уже не было так велико, как прежде, ибо за время шведского владычества роль "окна в Европу" перешла к только что основанному Петербургу. На протяжении XVIII-XIX веков развитие Ивангорода, ставшего частью Нарвы, шло по плану, лично утверждённому Екатериной II в 1784г.

[edit] Soviet assault plans (1941)

Tervist! Loon hetkel artiklit, mis käsitleb Nõukogude rünnakuplaane 1939 a-st kuni sõja puhkemiseni 22. juunil 1941. Paraku pole mu vene keele oskus kuigi hea, nii et tõlkimisel tekkis mõningaid probleeme. Kas Sa oleks nõus Žukovi 15. mai rünnakuplaani tõlget User:Constanz#Zhukov's proposal(vene keelest inglise keelde) üle vaatama (või soovitama kedagi, kes võiks teema vastu huvi tunda)? Näiteks katke: Детально группировка сил показана на прилагаемой карте. Состав и задача развертываемых на западе фронтов (карта 1 : 1 000 000).[?]) Constanz - Talk 15:52, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Hi, I see that you are from Estonia, thus I thought you would be interested in the Baltic States notice board. Here people interested in the region post new articles, articles needing attention, and the ongoing related discussions. It would be smat for you to add the board to your watchlist and check it from time to time to make sure you keep up with what's going on. This way you could also take part! As well, please use the board to tell others about the articles you write yourself, so others could check and improve them. It would be nice if you would nform other Estonian contributors about the board too, because now it seems there are more Lithuanians and Latvians there than Estonians. Thanks! DeirYassin 17:36, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] use of d'Hondt in Estonia's 3rd tier

Tere! :)

Many thanks for your explanation of the use of d'Hondt in Estonia 3rd tier! Unfortunately, I only now noticed your post at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:D%27Hondt_method

"There are 101 seats in the Estonian parliament and in the past elections the breakdown between the mandates awarded in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd (" d'Hondt* ") rounds of counting have been the following: in 1992: 17, 24, 60*; in 1995: 15, 34, 52*; in 1999: 11, 44, 46*; and in 2003: 14, 60, 27*."

Is this analysis from private resources (in other words, your own calculations) or has it been published? It's very interesting to me that there appears to be a trend that the number of representatives elected at the 2nd tier of counting has steadily increased, so that it comprised a majority at the last election in 2003. But, I'm curious about one aspect: is there further analysis that indicates which electoral districts have the least popular representatives, i.e., those who were elected at the 3rd tier? Do they represent less-developed agricultural areas?

I'm fairly knowledgeable about Latvia's electoral system and that does discriminate against those voters living in smaller electoral districts - which happen to be the less-developed agricultural areas.

Many thanks, again! : )

Elizabete Rutens 19:28, 14 February 2006 (UTC) (Elizabete.Rutens###gmail.com. Substitute the @ sign for ###, if you wish to contact me privately.)

[edit] Thank you.

3 Löwi, thank you for your input into the article Klooga concentration camp. I had been having a rather difficult time trying to source much of it. I greatly appreciate your help with fact-checking. Unfortunately, so many accounts from this era are either unable to be substatiated, or just wrong. I really appreciate the effort on your part.

I am currently (tentatively) working on and article of Avdy Andresson and was wondering if you could possibly help me with any information? I would greatly appreciate it. I have been having a very difficult time finding much pertinent information. Thank you again ExRat 09:48, 21 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Estonian History

Terre!

You have reverted my entry, and I am puzzled as to why this should be the case.

Firstly, I placed a comment about what I thought was missing on the discussion page, but this elicited no response. It was only then that I made my entry.

Secondly, you seem to imply that history is not about people. If it is not, I do wonder what on earth it is about. Surely, the history of the Estonian people and Estonia are one and the same thing? That is the way that most people in Western Europe would look at it, and the way our general history books are written.

There is indeed, a wikipedia entry on the Estonian People, but it is not particularly informative, and would not be the first port of call for someone wanting historical information.

The page already has a reference to the origins of the Estonian people, but it is not an interpretation that many in Western Europe would recognise. I only discovered the other version for myself upon visits to Estonia. Don't you think that it would be a good idea if both interpretations were given?

I don't intend to do anything further until I know your thoughts on this matter.

--Train guard 11:16, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hakkapeliitta

Hallo Drei Löwen! I've noticed your contributions of Estonian topics in the past and found your name while searching for a Finnish-speaking contributor. Would you mind taking a look at Hakkapeliitta? I tried to clean the article up by providing a better layout and removing some POV statements. Would you mind checking to see if any of the Finnish words are spelled incorrectly (or anything else incorrect that you notice)? Olessi 20:56, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] European regions map

Someone has suggested that the map currently on Eastern Europe, European Regions 16.png, be replaced. I think that it is a good map, but that it would be better if the colors were explained. Do you think you could do that? Thanks, Kjkolb 08:39, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV pushing again?

Hello, my friend. If I see you routinely replacing "Russian" with "Old East Slavic" and other self-devised bullshit, I'll start replacing "Estonians" in pre-18th century context with "Old South Finns" as routinely as you do. Take care, Ghirla -трёп- 18:21, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PD image tag

Hello,

Could you please clarify the source of commons:Image:Finno_Ugric_Languages.png ? The source is described as "IMIU" but this abbreviation isn't defined. It might be "Imam Muhammad ibn Saud Islamic University" but I can't find it on their website (it's all in Arabic, which I can't read). The only Google hits I can find are from Wikipedia.

Also, the {{PD}} tag on it is now obsolete - please replace it with a more specific template.

TTFN - Hairy Dude 11:18, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help please

Can you verify this translation? NikoSilver 18:24, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Done by User:Antipatros. Thanks anyway and happy new year! :-) NikoSilver 19:06, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cut & Paste

Do NOT move pages by cutting & pasting the content. That's wrong because article history gets lost. If you cannot properly move an article, ask one of the admins to do it for you, or request a move on WP:RM. I fixed the mess with Baltic States. Please don't do it again. Renata 14:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

roger wilco --3 Löwi 21:45, 27 January 2007 (UTC)


A tag has been placed on Asper Biotech, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert notability may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is notable, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page (below the existing db tag) and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Steve (Slf67) talk 10:08, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Teutonic-Estonian War

Hello, 3 Löwi! Would you mind offering your opinion at Talk:Teutonic-Estonian War if you have time? Olessi 00:56, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding edits made to Estonian SSR

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Please stop. If you continue to blank out (or delete portions of) page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing.

Please, notice, that removing significant parts of pages, especially referenced information without rationale as you did here, is considered vandalism (see "Blanking" section there). For edits in such a style a user can be blocked. Cmapm 13:04, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] License tagging for Image:Martens Postimees 1909.JPG

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[edit] Congress of Estonia

Your edits to Congress of Estonia have not been very helpfull. Also your edit summaries, "typical pro-Russian imperialist POV and factual errors" are not too civil. If was really pushing a POV expressing my own opinion telling the truth, I would say, that the Congress of Estonia was a rasict organization with the aim of establishing an apartheid state. If I was pushing the Russian POV, I would say that they intened to restore the fascist state and hoped to achieve ethnic cleansing. -- Petri Krohn 17:08, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Estonia-small-coa.png

Hello, 3 Löwi. An automated process has found and removed an image or media file tagged as nonfree media, and thus is being used under fair use that was in your userspace. The image (Image:Estonia-small-coa.png) was found at the following location: User:3 Löwi. This image or media was attempted to be removed per criterion number 9 of our non-free content policy. The image or media was replaced with Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg , so your formatting of your userpage should be fine. Please find a free image or media to replace it with, and or remove the image from your userspace. User:Gnome (Bot)-talk 02:29, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] revert

Please don't revert SOURCED additions mindlessly. Some spectators could go as far to regard it as historical revisionism. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 14:44, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Please, notice, that removing significant parts of pages, especially referenced information without rationale as you did here, is considered vandalism (see "Blanking" section there). For edits in such a style a user can be blocked. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 12:24, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Block

You have been blocked for 48 hours. 24 of these are for violations of our rule on multiple reversions of the same page. An additional 24 are for removal of sourced material from an article. Phil Sandifer 15:16, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Eesti Kongress

Vikipeedias on templeidid hoiatamaks NPOV-põhimõtet rikkunud kasutajaid. Loodetavasti leiad Sa selle kasutamise otstarbeka olevat, iseäranis niisugusel kauakestval ja ohtralt korduval juhtumil nagu see afäär on. Digwuren 14:13, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

This is English Wikipedia. Could you please say the same in English? --Ghirla-трёп- 14:47, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
I was reminding 3 Löwi to remind an user whose edit got reverted for violation WP:NPOV of to add an appropriate notification to the reverted editor's talk page.
I heeded a recommendation by Irpen, and wrote it manually, not using a template, and knowing that 3 Löwi speaks Estonian natively, displayed this manuality by expressing my note to the editor in Estonian.
I had my doubts before, and expressed them to Irpen, but now I'm convinced that this whole anti-template idea is bogus. Digwuren 15:04, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
It seem to be a canvassing call to revet my edits at Congress of Estonia and to circumvent the WP:3RR rule. -- Petri Krohn 14:51, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
You're quite wrong, and display both your paranoia and lack of understanding of Estonian. I know that what you take into your head, you refuse to reconsider, so I will not try to translate it; instead, I'll point out a fact you have not considered before: 3 Löwi reverted your blatant violation of WP:NPOV *before* I recommended to him that he might want to notify you about it. Digwuren 15:04, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Digwuren's checkuser

Just to let you know - you have been named as one of Digwuren's sockpuppets/meatpuppets in Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Digwuren. DLX 10:00, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

And somebody extremely "clever" has just confirmed you are me!?--Alexia Death 06:19, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Alexia. I have been a registered Wikipedia user since 2005 (prior to Petri Krohn); whereas you and Digwuren since 2007. The "clever" insinuation is thus that yourself, Digwuren and others are really "me" (my "puppets", "other personalities" or something similar), and not the other way around. Very "clever" indeed. Cheers, --3 Löwi 07:44, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

I have presented a request to David Gerard and Raul654 to review this checkuser. Digwuren 09:24, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

I have changed the duration of the block to one week Alex Bakharev 15:21, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, apparently you are now my sockpuppet instead... or I am yours, since I registered to Wikipedia early 2006. This thing is getting silly, Petri trying to fight his POV edits by trying to get others banned... why they just don't ban all Estonians from Wikipedia, because we are obviously all sockpuppets/meatpuppets. DLX 15:24, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
[5] Digwuren 15:29, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I found that! - and added it as reference in Karelo-Finnish SSR. Now I have a request, can you please translate "Viiburis olevat ainult üks soomlane - natšfin." - What is a natšfin? -- Petri Krohn 15:44, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Figure it out, big boy. You're so great at snooping around this little word should pose no problem at all. Digwuren 16:31, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I am not trying to get anyone banned. What I want is that members of Korp! Estonia on wheels are counted as one in votes and WP:3RR. -- Petri Krohn 15:38, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
In other words, you stop from nothing to get your point into articles. I guess ArbCom will also be interested to learn that you are, even now, not showing any remorse for your actions. Digwuren 17:42, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
It wont happen. We are all our own people. I have never met any of the others consciously. An I see this series of check user requests as harassment. --Alexia Death 17:06, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
In the future, don't make requests related to any of these users unless there is very high disruption and very obvious editing patterns or such. One reason being the fact that the ISP there is set up quite crappily and it's hard differentiate anyone on it. This has already created enough confusion and I brought in two other checkusers just to confirm that two users are probably socks that weren't even the main accused users. Voice-of-All 17:47, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Is there any hope or way a user (e.g., myself) can provide sufficient evidence to show that he is not another user (e.g., Klamber), or do I have to wait out the 1 week before the block expires? Just wondering, --3 Löwi 20:09, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Without giving up anonymity? I cannot see any way a proof can be achieved, without both of you revealing your true identities, either publicly or to a trusted person. It would help, if you had registered your e-mail address, but you seem to have nothing registered. -- Petri Krohn 21:55, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
You, polyglot, might want to look up presumptio innocentiae. By all rules of justice, they shouldn't be required to prove their innocence; you, the accuser, should prove their guilt. So far, you've failed to even assert guilt on these two fellow's part. Digwuren 22:01, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Petri Krohn's behaviour

Thank you for your interest in topics regarding the Baltic republics and the Soviet occupation. This interests has undoubtedly familiarised you with tactics and behaviour of Petri Krohn.

I have prepared a thorough overview of these tactics, along with references to related Wikipedia policy, and posted it to his userpage, requesting that he stop such activities, especially representing private alternative histories on Wikipedia as thought they were fact.

Unfortunately, he proceeded to delete the request mere seven minutes later, along with an inflammatory edit summary. I do not believe this to have been a proper reaction.

Please, if that will not be too inconvenient, take a look at the situation, evaluate it, and consider expressing your evaluation in the appropriate manner.

Many thanks, Digwuren 16:36, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

You might like to know that there is now an oficial work being done twoards RFC at User:Digwuren/Petri Krohn. If you have something to add, please do. Every diff helps.--Alexia Death 12:50, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

In response to calls to this effect on the talk page, I'm moving forward with the WP:RFC/U with only the last six weeks worth of edits fully classified. Please take a look at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Petri Krohn, which, after minor editing and addition of the most recent 'interesting' diffs, is supposed to become the main RFC around 21:00 UTC tonight. If there are reasons barring you from endorsing the current summary, I would like to learn about them as soon as possible so the main summary can be endorsed by as wide a coalition as possible.

Thanks in advance. Digwuren 15:36, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:RFC/U on Petri Krohn filed

You might be interested to know that Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Petri Krohn has been filed. Digwuren 20:09, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Baltic states & Russian language

Please see the discussion at Category_talk:Russian-speaking_countries_and_territories.--Ilya1166 14:04, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stop!

Stop removing sourced information and changing things from a neutral POV to a nationlist one as you did here or I will report you to an admin as you seem to have a history of doing this.--Ilya1166 07:35, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Digwuren

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Digwuren. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Digwuren/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Digwuren/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Cbrown1023 talk 23:34, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of of Estonian Americans.

Tere 3 Löwi, the List of Estonian Americans has been nominated for deletion. I thought perhaps you may wish to weigh in on this matter, as nearly every other American ethnic group is not listed for deletion. Cheers, ExRat 01:30, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Digwuren

This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. Among the principles passed was At wit's end which states that necessary measures must be adopted by the Arbitration Committee in cases where repeated attempts to stop disruptive disputes have failed. As a result of the case, both Digwuren and Petri Krohn are banned for one year. There has also been a general restriction to all editors working on topis related to Eastern Europe and a warning to all those who may, in the future, attempt to use Wikipedia as a battleground that they may be banned when the matter is reported to the Committee. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Cbrown1023 talk 18:29, 21 October 2007 (UTC)