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[edit] Terrible article

This isn't an encyclopedic article. It's a blatant fan piece -- and a poorly written one at that. This article needs to be completely revamped. --Nonstopdrivel 19:53, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

        i agree


[edit] Alternative?

I fail to see how this band fits an "alternative music" category. Doesn't alternative mean something other than mainstream? This band has been a mainstream act since first getting airplay. Most bands receiving airplay on commercial radio stations, since the 1990s, are mainstream acts.


        I definitely agree. They are quite mainstream, and don't really show the traits of an    alternative music group, such as Smashing Pumpkins or Sigur Ros.
If music critics (who are deemed reliable sources) see it fit to put this band into the alternative music category, then they are part of alternative music. Wikipedia is based on Verifiability, so we go with whatever the critics say. (OF course if the critics say many different things, then they are part of a whole host of genres! ;) ) Copysan 00:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


Alternative Music stopped being "alternative" almost 20 years ago. 21:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)Bretticus —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.243.141 (talk)

[edit] Links lead to all the wrong places

Ok the links are realy messed up they lead to the completely wrong thing like the song kryptonite goes to the superman comics page and the link for when im gone leads to the Eminem song. SInce when did eminem have anyhting to do with 3 doors down

You're right, they do lead to the wrong places. That's dumb. Sherlock32 19:54, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. MSJapan 19:36, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Need to expand

This article needs to be expanded. For being such a successful band, their article lacks information concerning their formation, history, success, etc. Sherlock32 20:02, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, look at that I just expanded it myself! After a month of no one adding any info, I've decided to take matters into my own hands. There are indie bands that few have ever heard of before that have better articles with more info. I do not expect this article to be like the Led Zeppelin or Eagles articles, for those two bands are two of the greatest and most succesful bands in world history but still no one edits the page, or leaves comments. Sherlock32 00:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sara Evans' Controversy

I have included facts from the latest news story that cited Sara Evans as having almost a dozen affairs including Richard Marx, Kenny Chesney, Tony Dovolani, and the members of the rock group Three Doors Down. This edit is in no way a defamation of character to Three Doors Down; it was just a newsworthy fact that needed to be added to the article. The edit was cited and linked appropriately. --Candy156sweet 18:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I reverted an edit, by Sherlock32, that removed the subject matter relevant to this topic. Removing the names of the parties pertaining to the divorce of Sara Evans, makes the topic seem vague. --Candy156sweet 02:21, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it's not newsworthy, and neither is any of what is in the "Recent News" section. It is an allegation with no real proof, and anything regarding albums and songs should go in the main sections of the article. In short, the section is wholly unneeded. MSJapan 04:41, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes it is newsworthy and should be left on the page where it belongs. There is nothing within the recent news section that was retrieved from tabloid publications. This section is not defamatory, damaging, or frivolous in any way. These are cited facts and should remain as content in this article. --Candy156sweet 04:45, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
The story appeared on one day in one paper over a month ago, and really has nothing to do with the band; it was allegations made without proof by Evans' ex-husband. The other material is fancruft - The new album can go into the article when it is released, and saying "they're in the studio" means nothing whatsoever. Same with the songs, which belong on the page for the album they will appear on. None of those items are encyclopedic in the least. MSJapan 04:54, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
I think you'll find that (a) I didn't create this section (b) I merely added to this section with relevant information pertaining to a fact presented to the media. If you are not in favor of this, then take the one fact that you feel is valid and reincorporate it into the article itself. If you had incorporated it and posted about it, then I wouldn't have debated this with you in the first place. This is not a pet article for me; I love editing many different musical articles. Please don't bite for my misunderstanding your removal of content. --Candy156sweet 05:02, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recent News section

Responding to a thread left on my talkpage, I will offer a suggestion about this section. the "Recent News" section is laid out as trivia in the respect that it is a bullet pointed list of unrelated items. I'd say the first priority would to restructure the content there. I'd suggest reformatting the article into a ==History== header and then break up the current "band history" and "recent news" into more date driven sub headers (see Weezer for an example of what I'm talknig about). The stuff in recent news should be laid out in prose format and integrated into the article text. I removed the "cite" for the new album because it wasn't really a cite per se. This needs to be cited correctly (and beyond that I didn't see anything at all about a new album on their MySpace page). I also removed some weasel wording POV ("seemed like"... etc). As far as if this stuff is notable enough for the article, personally I'd say new album yes with a proper citation... new songs, only if it can be verified, Sarah Evans stuff, no (though if consensus is to keep that in I'd say the citations are adequate for it). That is simply my personal opinion though and as someone who really takes no interest in this band I'd say inclusion in this article is probably best determined by a WP:CONSENSUS discussion here. Hope that helps.--Isotope23 talk 12:33, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Citizen/Soldier and any other edits that refer to that single along with it's pending new CD (title unknown)

I've noticed that there are certain editors who take the initiative to make edits that aren't supported by proper citations. Edits that referred to the song and video Citizen/Soldier were rewritten by me and subsequently cited. There is no information or citation to support the edit that the newest CD is titled "National Guard." If this turns out to be an actual title of the disc, by all means revert my edit and cite the fact appropriately. Otherwise, this is just unsubstantiated editing that wastes everyone's time. --Candy156sweet 18:55, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

The official 3 Doors Down website states that the album will be self-titled. So, that would you mean you were right. [1] Wikimaster97 (talk) 01:24, 3 April 2008 (UTC)



No Picture? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.50.16.47 (talk) 03:40, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

==Music Video==

The video titled Citizen/Soldier does exist and deserves to be part of this article. The information pertaining to this video is cited appropriately and I can't find a reason that it should be reverted. If I'm wrong, please tell me. Thanks! --Candy156sweet 02:50, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alternative metal? Huh?

I strongly disagree with the labelling of alternative metal being applied to 3 Doors Down, as I do not believe they are heavy enough. I've yet to come across a source describing them as such, either. I'm going to remove this, then if sources are provided it can be re-added. James25402 (talk) 14:25, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, there's only one source caling them that, allmusic, which is not a reliable source on what is or is not metal. Prophaniti (talk) 17:03, 31 May 2008 (UTC)