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[edit] Disambiguation needed?

Does this need a disambiguation page to separate the TV show from the GE Building at 30 Rockefeller Plaza? 64.236.170.228 01:20, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I've added a blurb on top. @! 23:36, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Laugh Track

Does anybody know if the show has a laugh track. 75pickup (talk · contribs)

The show does not have a laugh track. Photo22 (talk · contribs)

[edit] Ratings

Anyone have access to the rating numbers for the pilot? It would be good to add to the main article and the Pilot (30 Rock episode) page.--Twintone 20:43, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Air date change

Shouldn't the air dates change on the list of episodes since there is a thursday night move?--Twintone 20:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References need work

I fixed the first three references, but the rest need work. Basically we need to change the naked web addresses into nice web refs. This:

  • <ref>http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20060515nbc02</ref>

needs to be like this:

  • <ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20060515nbc02 |title=Breaking News |accessdate=2007-01-19 |publisher=The Futon Critic}}</ref>

How to do it is here. -Peregrine Fisher 06:40, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia

The show name-dropped Wikipedia in the episode "The Head and the Hair." :) jengod 01:18, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is it Hard Ball or Negotiation?

The episode that aired in the United States on February 22, 2007 is listed sometimes as "Negotiation" and sometimes "Hard Ball." Even the episode's own page has both titles (although the page is titled Hard Ball, the info box on the right says Negotiation). Can someone please clarify which name is actually correct? Xantar 21:52, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge from TGS with Tracy Jordan

Please merge relevant content, if any, from TGS with Tracy Jordan per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TGS with Tracy Jordan. (If there is nothing to merge, just leave it as a redirect.) Thanks. —Quarl (talk) 2007-03-05 10:42Z

[edit] March 1st Ratings

I put in the 3.9/6 rating from the Zap2It overnights for The Source Awards, though I'm not entirely sure how accurate that is seeing as it's an average of 30 Rock and Scrubs. TVWeek hasn't updated yet.

[edit] Wikipedia:Fiction noticeboard

A new noticeboard, Wikipedia:Fiction noticeboard, has been created. - Peregrine Fisher 18:22, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

This noticeboard has been deleted per Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Fiction noticeboard. Please disregard the above post. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 11:28, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notable Guest Stars

Should actors who appear in the 'minor characters' page also be listed as notable guest stars? I guess it might depend more on the fame of the actor than the frequency of their appearance: eg I would say Rip Torn should be there, but not Chris Parnell or Dean Winters? Any views?

I think it would also be good to list the character which a guest star plays. What do others think?

[edit] Episode notability

Many or all of the existing individual episode pages for this series appear to fail the notability guidelines for television episodes, and have been tagged accordingly. These articles can be improved through the inclusion of real-world information from reliable sources to assert notability. Overly long plot summaries should be edited, to a maximum length of approximately ten words per minute of screen time. Trivia should be integrated into the body of the article, or removed if it is not directly relevant. Quotes and images should only be used as part of a critical analysis of the episode. You might also consider merging any notable information onto the show's "List of episodes" or season pages. Otherwise, when these pages come up for review in fourteen days, they may be redirected, merged or deleted. If you want any help or further information, then come to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Episode coverage. Thanks. TTN 17:20, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A new season?

Is this up-to-date? Specifically, has it been picked up for Fall 2007/Spring 2008? And might that infomation be included?

  yes it has been, I saw a new episode being played yesterday, and went on the official site to confirm it,

someone should post updated information

[edit] Links to 30 Rock resources

Why do you keep deleting the link to that 30 Rock quote page? They aren't selling anything so it's not spam. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.43.177.88 (talk • contribs) 23:21, 14 July 2007 (UTC).

Fan-based Website are generally not considered notable. It's not that the quotation site is spam, it's just that "Links to blogs and personal web pages, except those written by a recognized authority" are "normally to be avoided". See WP:EL#Links normally to be avoided for more information. --Jeremy Butler 01:15, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ra-ra-ra-ra-ratings

How can the show of noever been lower than 88th in the weeklies, then ended up ranked lower than 100? I guess, I just dont understand. someone help me. Janemansfield74 21:36, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Basically it's because networks air different shows during different weeks. The short answer is Law of Averages. Here's an example:

During Week 1 a network, say ABC, airs Show A which earns 20 million viewers while another network, NBC, airs Show B which earns 10 million. The next week ABC airs Show C instead which earns 19 million, while NBC sticks with Show B and earns 10 million again. Even though Show B was in second both weeks, it's 3rd over all.

Show A averaged 20 mill, C average 19 mill, while B only averaged 10. And that's just bumping it down after 2 weeks. Imagine how much shows get bumbed down over a season with 4 or 5 networks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pcb30 (talk • contribs) 07:22, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article assessment

I have rated this article as mid importance because of the awards recognition the show has received. It was already rated as B class so I have not assessed it for quality. These categories are arbritrary and are subject to review by any editor who feels confident to do so. Please note that a more formal assessment by other editors is required to achieve good article or featured article status. I used criteria from the television wikiproject guidelines here, article about TV series guidelines here and the assessment guidelines here.--Opark 77 11:51, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Weekly Ratings

Is it worth moving the weekly ratings to their own page in time for the new season and just putting a "further information" in the space of them? It will get pretty cluttered, certainly towards the end of this season. Jamie jca 21:50, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removing Episode Links

Someone really needs to help go through all the 30 Rock related pages and remove the episode links (All except Pilot (30 Rock episode) since they got deleted a few months ago.

Jamie jca (talk) 22:49, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of 30 Rock episodes for featured list

The list of episodes is currently a candidate for featured list. Not many people have commented on it so far, so if you can do so, please review it. Thanks. --Jamie jca (talk) 20:49, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Episode 210" for Good Article

The article for the episode "Episode 210" has been listed as a good article candidate. Please could somebody review it. Thanks. --Jamie jca (talk) 20:49, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 30 Rock taskforce

A 30 Rock taskforce has been proposed. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#30 Rock. -- Jamie jca (talk) 00:40, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] large amount of references

The line

Dratch appeared in eleven first season episodes.[23][24][25][26][27][28][29][30][31][32][33]

has an excessive amount of references. Could someone do something about this? Thank you. LonelyPker (talk) 04:56, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

So you want to NOT reference something? -- Jamie jca (talk) 22:14, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Anyone willing to help?

Is anyone willing to help get this article up to GA or even FA? Leave a message on my talk page if you're willing to help. Thanks. -- Jamie jca (talk) 23:46, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if the workgroup is going to really accomplish anything we can't do here, so why don't we just work in a more informal manner on this talk page. I'm thinking I can do a bit of copy editing and formatting. I changed the lede to show you what I might be able to help with.[1] - Peregrine Fisher (talk) 07:54, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
So I've been reading the article starting from the top. I notice that the music section is unreferenced. We may want to just remove it. I'm looking for refs, but I don't know that they support an entire section.[2] Maybe we should merge some of the production sections. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) 17:32, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I think we should insert the refs we have, and put the "citation needed" tag on the parts that are unreferenced. If after a while they have no refs, we will just delete them. Corn.u.co.pia ♥ Disc.us.sion 03:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
OK. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) 05:18, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Looking at the section, most of it can be reffed with episode citations, but we just need to know which song was performed in which episode. Corn.u.co.pia ♥ Disc.us.sion 06:12, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
For this line: "The series features a jazzy score that heightens comical moments", I tried to find some refs, but couldn't find any. These two are OK: [3] [4], but do not mention the music heightening comical moments. Whatdya think? Corn.u.co.pia ♥ Disc.us.sion 05:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Here's an interview that Amazon did with Tina Fey about the show. Might be useful. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contributions) 16:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)