Talk:24 (TV series)/Archive 1

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Naming

I think this should be at 24 (TV show). Isn't that how it's usually done in Wikipedia? Tuf-Kat

See at bottom of Talk:Television. --Brion 09:29 Apr 18, 2003 (UTC)

Network

What network carries the show in Australia?

The Seven Network

Disputed: accurate approach to technology

From the article:

The show is notable for its unusually accurate approach to technology (although many have found season 3 to be less accurate than its predecessors)

I'm not sure I agree with that. I'm a professional software engineer, and some of computer jargon they throw back and forth at CTU is laughable. If there aren't any objections within the next couple days, I'm going to remove this statement. • Benc • 13:17, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

How accurate does a TV show need to be, to be "unusually accurate"? :-)
—wwoods 16:47, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Accurate enough to not make me roll my eyes when I watch it. ;-) Seriously, point taken. What's the best wording for a statement to the effect of: "24 is accurate for a TV show, but still contains many inaccuracies and artistic exaggerations"? • Benc • 18:12, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

That section made me cringe when I read it. Defiantly needs to be changed! Adventuresofthestarkiller 06:26, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'd also add that the mention of the Mac vs. PC debate is nonsense. In later seasons, if not Series 1, CTU are clearly using Dell servers and I'm sure some of the bad guys also use Macs.

TRobinson 13:42, 16 June 2005 (GMT)

The show uses real jargon, but the terms are used incorrectly. If you don't listen closely, it sounds good, but often the sentences don't make sense.

I agree. I think the above quote should be removed as it implies an accuracy which is simply not present. In fact 24 uses a lot more IT jargon that almost any other series and it is ridiculous that they don't have some sort of IT consultant on hand. Nobody would think about making a medical drama without a medical consultant.
Daniel Pope 22:50, 2005-09-29 (UTC)

When, in the first 'hour', Kim's parents talk about having given her a password for her email to show her they trusted her, I thought it was an 'old' series (mid nineties maybe). But it turns out it's from 2001. For that timeframe this is laughable. What about webmail at the internet cafe across the street? Keep the 'nice' mail for the account your parents can see and use the webmail for your real email. Of course, that wouldn't stop Jack (given his job), but that just makes the 'trust' bit more laughable. DirkvdM 18:48, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Another thing that I find strange is that they couldn't trace the cellphone (that the captive mother and daughter got hold of) when it wasn't being used. I thought that a cellphone always gives off a signal as long as it is not turned off and can thus always be traced. DirkvdM 08:11, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Real Time?

I remember FOX touting 24 as being in "real time" over the first two seasons...the third was vague, and the fourth definitely not in "real time". Although the hours were different, I always looked forward to seeing how many seconds off their clock was to mine. Maybe we should make this distinction?

Tygar 06:48, Jan 31, 2005 (UTC)

The fourth season has been off a little, but not that much. The first two episodes of the season were way off due to being viewed back to back. - I really don't think it's worth mentioning. K1Bond007 07:15, Jan 31, 2005 (UTC)

I remember on the earlier seasons, they always said "Events occur in real time" after they say "The follwing takes place between..."

Although I also remember the claim, none of the seasons have ever been in truly accurate "real time". Fox has always been forced to snip seconds out here and there. Even assuming that there were no advertisements before or after the show, a real time one-hour episode could not share a one-hour time slot with the "Previously on 24" intro and the previews for the next episode. At best, the episode (including inter-act ads) probably has to fit within something like 55 minutes. -- Plutor 18:59, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

I think it's around 2 minutes off, because they have to have the closing the commercials that can'y cut into the News after. FD2 23:59, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

I've just started watching on BBC and I've only seen the first two episodes (the first '4 hours'). But I presume the rest is the same. The first episode lasted 1 hour 22 minutes (with introduction) and the second one 1 hour 20 minutes (without the 'previously on...'). So 1 hour is really 40 minutes, not 44 minutes as the article says. Also it's a bit strange to start with the advertising breaks and then say that if you leave those out it doesn't fit. Advertising is not part of the show and it's not normal everywhere, like on the BBC which doesn't have any but also on other public stations, which don't have any in the middle of shows (just between them). If that's where you come from then this all sounds very odd (the first time I had to 'get' this was when I read on imdb about 2 hour Star Trek episodes - for a while I thought that maybe in Europe we get to see clipped episodes or something, although that's very unusual for Dutch stations, which almost always show uncensored full versions and director's cuts and such) So I reversed the approach. DirkvdM 18:24, 20 August 2005 (UTC)


Hi.

I found out the link to that news article at the Baltimoresun site is invalid. It may be my problem, but please check :). I'm not a native speaker so please forgive my english.--61.149.126.170 18:20, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)


Removing recurring cast

I really don't see why we have the recurring characters listed on this page when we have another page, List of characters in 24 where they're all listed again. Main characters is one thing, the "Recurring cast" section should be removed. K1Bond007 01:46, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

Season 4

The season 4 section is getting very long and disorganized. I say we split it off into another article, perhaps 24 Season 4. We can leave a short summary on the main 24 article and move the rest there. Good idea? Bonus Onus

I was going to propose this a few days ago. It's out of control. I think it'd be nice to reduce it to a small paragraph with basic information on it then move the rest to it's own page. Either 24 Season 4 or 24 Day 4. K1Bond007 02:54, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
Remove the first paragraph (the really long one). A quarter of it describes the first 21 episodes of the season and the rest details the last three or so. Everything else stands fine, though there could be another bullet in the 'Plot' section that details the final 30 minutes of the season (Jack faking his death).
I agree. Bonus Onus 12:49, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
I really think the entire Season 4 thing is unnecessary. A couple of paragraphs outlining the plot (a series of terrorist attacks, starting with a train bombing, the kidnapping of secretary of defence, etc) would do. The entire story need not be told. - James Foster 14:20, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
I agree, we do not need the Plot subsection under Season 4. All we need is a synopsis of the major plot, and a listing of the major subplots, as in the sections for Seasons 1-3. It really isn't our job to tell the whole story; that's for the fansites, and Fox's official site. — EagleOne\Talk 00:28, May 28, 2005 (UTC)

I've done some editing of the article, mostly title-changing and posting what I posted for "The Death of Jack Bauer" in the appropriate section. If I get more time, I might sit down and rewrite the whole thing, if you like. Steven Hildreth, Jr. 15:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

I think the entire "plot" subsection of season 4 can now be removed. It's really not needed. - James Foster 00:09, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Calorie Mate featuring Jakku Bauaa

That must be one of the mopst blatant piece of advertisement in the hisotry of the industry.

Link to 'George Mason'

There is a link to George mason in the cast section at the top, but the george mason page is not related to 24. Is a disambig. page necessary?

Someone else should fix this as i dont really know how it should be done properly.

--Jiphex 23:19, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Done, thanks! You're always welcome to attempt to fix it yourself, if you want. If you screw up, we can just revert it. :) - James Foster 01:57, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Reference for "X-Filesish conspiracy thriller type plot, with Jack's own CTU agency ordering the hit on Palmer", please!

Hello. I'd like to see a reference for this:

"The story originally involved an X-Filesish conspiracy thriller type plot, with Jack's own CTU agency ordering the hit on Palmer, but that aspect was scrapped, likely due to September 11th, 2001."

Anyone got one? Thanks! - James Foster 22:38, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Greatest Show Ever Made Or Concieved

FACT!--B0sh 09:43, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

What about The Simpsons? Ablaze 10:07, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Come on! There is no Bauer in Simpsons. Admitadly Homer is Good, But Bauer would just kick is ass, break his back or snap his neck by running up a wall, and then get in touch with his human side and cry, and then save the USA, and then recieve no prasie and be recjected by his nation.....all the time being the hardest man alive.--B0sh 10:31, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Ahhh so were not talking about the greatest show ever made or concieved? We are talking about the greatest (fictional) person ever!? Ablaze 12:35, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
NO, the greatest show, with the greatest character.....concieved--B0sh 14:26, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

24 Image

Does anyone have the 24 number clock image for the infobox, the pic of jack is nice, but too big for the box. Plus it would space out the article if it was put further down the page? Ablaze 07:40, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Found one myself. Ablaze 12:37, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

24 Wiki

Hi. There's a new Wiki for 24 and seeing the work you guys have done here, maybe you should have a go at editing some pages at the 24 Wiki.

The address is http://24.wikicities.com/wiki/Main_Page

You guys have done some great work here. keep it up!

Director ----> Special Agent in Charge

look at Jack's profile at the official 24 website(http://www.fox.com/24/profiles/), it states: "Former Special Agent in Charge", not Director of CTU. This includes George Mason, Jack Bauer, Tony Almeida and the others who held the position.