User talk:24.171.16.151

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  2. Please refrain from removing content from Wikipedia, as you did to Aryan Nations. It is considered vandalism. If you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. TigerShark 20:52, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
  3. Please stop. If you continue to blank pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Image:Weather rain.pngSoothingR 20:54, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
  4. This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. -- Alf melmac 20:57, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

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Aryan Nations

I've blocked you for 24 hours for violating the rule against reverting a page more than 3 times in a 24 hour period, as well as for generally disruptive editing. Please use the talk page to come to a consensus instead of edit warring, which is harmful to Wikipedia. · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 17:06, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Then your an Idiot

We've already discussed this on the talk page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Aryan_Nations and the admin of the site said to leave both links. The Williams imposter keeps deleting The Site & adding there own, I suggest you ban him not me, I have done nothing but revertions, including cleaning up the page & adding a picture.

There is no "admin of the site," so I don't know who you're referring to. (I'm an admin, for instance -- one of 600 on Wikipedia.) The other anon editor is blocked as well, and calling me an idiot won't help. Please stop edit warring; use the talk page. · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 01:56, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Then read the discussion page... we've already discussed this. All I'm trying to say is been there done that & a admin already locked the article once & banned that guy 2 times now, all I did was revert the changes he continues to do of wich he was continualy told over & over not do.

Reverting a page more than 3 times in 24 hours is never justified, even if you think you're "in the right." Seek help before exceeding three reversions in 24 hours, such as asking that the page be protected or that the other party be evaluated for a 3RR block. If your position has such strong backing by others on the page, there should be no reason for you personally to exceed three reverts in more than 24 hours, as others should be reverting as well to back you up. That wasn't happening, so I'm personally a little suspect about your claims of consensus. · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 13:36, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Everytime they change it over the last month or two since they started doing it I change it back. What about this Williams kid who keeps changing it I'm doing nothing but just reverting it back to what it's always said the last few years since this has been up here.. And for the record there is half a dozen people that have been reverting it back everytime aswell "it's not just me"...

Policy

Please refrain from adding unreferenced additions to article space. You should read WP:V and WP:NPOV and familiarize yourself with these areas before adding anymore unreferenced information. Let me know if you need anymore help in this matter.--MONGO 15:06, 28 March 2006 (UTC)


You ask & I can show you media documentation of anything if you don't know ?

How to use talk pages

Please sign your posts on talk pages, otherwise we have no way of knowing who's said what. There's an easy way to do this. Just type four tildes in a row (like this: ~~~~) and it will automatically fill out your username, time and datestamp etc. when you hit save. For instance, for me it looks like this: · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 03:05, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

WP:3RR

Follow the Wikipedia three revert rule please. The rule is there to ensure editors take disputes to the article talk pages, instead of edit warring. Thank you.--MONGO 03:45, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

The Rules of Wikipedia

Wikipedia articles should contain all relevant viewpoints. After butler's death the Aryan Nations fractured. There are now several groups of its members independent of one another; see this article [1]. This is appropriate for inclusion in many of the articles you are editing. Removing this sort of information from this articles in the manner in which you are proceeding borders on disruption, for which you may be blocked from editing. Please stop, and reconsider instead how this informaiton can be properly placed into these articles in a way that maintains a neutral point of view. Thanks. · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 03:52, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

I have blocked you without warning for a three revert rule violation on Richard Girnt Butler, since you have been blocked for vandalism before. You should know better. When your block expires, please take disputes to the talk page rather than indiscriminately reverting. Not only is it against the rules of Wikipedia, reverting is usually ineffective. You could be blocked for a longer period in the future if you continue to violate Wikipedia's norms. –Joke 03:55, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

You know what

These twelve year frauds were not aryan nations members therefor you can not with legitimacy claim they are a brek off "faction" there "pastor" is a 20 year old kid that not only was never a member of the aryan nations but was never ordained by a aryan nations pastor to be able to claim such title.

I have no problems respecting your request to leave a link to there page but they on the other hand keep deleting ours therefore doing the exact same thing I have & have even went as far as rewriting the pages to reflect what they want people to beleive "lies" & on top of that vandalizing August Kreis III page aswell, just look up there ip address you'll see what I am doing is reverts & retaliation for what they been doing 24.171.16.151

Okay. Well, listen. I have to confess that I don't know much, really, about this whole thing. So I'm finding it difficult to help guide discussions or the article's content. I'm going to be busy today, but let me do a little bit of research and then maybe I can be more useful. Regardless, you must know that all information or claims of fact in Wikipedia articles must be sourced to a reliable publication. Information that can be sourced to a reliable publication may be included, even if you disagree with it or think it's not true. The threshold for inclusion in a Wikipedia article is verifiability, not absolute truth. Read the verifiability policy, this may help you make sense of the way Wikipedia works. · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 14:00, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

I will be glad to show you proof of anything just let me know. 24.171.16.151

J. Williams

I've created a new discussion page at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jonathan Williams (pastor) (2nd nomination), since anonymous users such as yourself cannot create new pages. Please explain your reasoning on this new page. Also, please create an account. — Apr. 5, '06 [09:37] <freakofnurxture|talk>


Thank you very much ;)

Vote stacking

Please understand that vote stacking AfDs is highly frowned upon. JoshuaZ 01:24, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Vote stacking MY ASS ??? Make up another one.........

You tell that to all the Admins & Moderators of this site there the ones voting Delete "not just me" ;)

Williams is a Fraud & you saying till your blue in the face but facts are Willimas never knew anyone in The Aryan Nations, Williams never applyed to even be a Aryan Nations member. And Williams to be a Pastor of the Aryan Nations not only would have had to been approved first but would have had to been Ordained "Trained" by an Aryan Nations Pastor & he was not.

Therefore Williams not only was not & is not a "Senior Pastor" of the Aryan Nations but was NEVER EVEN A MEMBER.... 24.171.16.151

I apologize for not being more specific. By vote stacking I refered to you messages to Esprit15d, Isotope23, Terence Ong and Mecanismo. Also, please be aware that 1) There are no "moderators" of Wikipedia 2) For almost all purposes (including deletion discussions) Admins opinions votes/comments have just as much wait as normal editors. Also, whether Williams is a fraud or not isn't relevant to whether or not he is encylopedic and/or notable. Many frauds are notable. Please see WP:N for further details. JoshuaZ 02:06, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
He's not notable. The only notation to him is that new site of wich he just joined. He has never met Butler, Redfaeirn or Kreis & the only articles by him state just that POV & a local newspaper "BIG WOOP" therefore he is not notible, I have more notoriety than that I've atleast made headlines in national news papers & you don't see me nagging for no page......
As for your "vote stacking" I'll have you know it says right on the instructions page to submit articles for deletion to notify everyone know who's a part of page deletions. You got a problem with Williams loosing his fraud, I'll send out a mass email to every member of the Aryan Nations & we'll do some real vote stacking & then we can only hope he won't be making headlines in the process ? 24.171.16.151
You didn't alert everyone who had voted in the prior deletion. You alerted those who had voted your way. That's clearly votestacking. As for your claim about sending out a mass email, I doubt it would have that result considering that the man is alive and well. JoshuaZ 02:17, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Interesting change of what you claimed there. Backing down a bit from the implied threat on his life are we? JoshuaZ 02:20, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Look you need to stop harrassing me, if you have a problem with the Aryan Nations you state it but if you are a friend or follower of this williams fraud you will reap the same demise. And yes it did sound that way that's why I changed it, I'm not a killer even though I did 8 for something similar I don't condone in white on white violence. 24.171.16.151