User talk:24.11.202.83

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[edit] Welcome

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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[edit] Removal of templates

Please stop removing cleanup templates from pages. These templates are added to ensure that Wikipedia is as high-quality as can be by bringing attention to problematic articles.

In addition, please do not remove deletion proposals from articles. If you believe that an article is worthy of inclusion on Wikipedia, please use the talk page to discuss it. Thanks. Chris Cunningham 09:06, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Second warning for today's prod removals. If you continue disrupting Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing. Rklawton 03:40, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

The templates say to remove them if you object to the article's deletion. 24.11.202.83 04:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clearing something up.

"If you can address this concern by improving, copyediting, sourcing, renaming or merging the page, please edit this page and do so. You may remove this message if you improve the article or otherwise object to its deletion for any reason. To avoid confusion, it helps to explain why you object to the deletion, either in the edit summary or on the talk page. If this template is removed, it should not be replaced."

This is the exact wording of a template that I frequently remove when I find an article that I feel should not be deleted. Please note the last line. I am not violating the rules by removing it, others are violating the rules by putting it back up. Since I am assuming good faith, I choose to believe that editors with thousands of edits under their belts have simply not read this template, and are not asserting their own preferences and power above those of the rules.

[edit] September 2007

It is clear you are removing prods because you disagree with all deletions. This, and your message above which tries to explain why you aren't breaking the rules, would strongly suggest that your behaviour is to make a point. Please refrain from removing prod tags if they are warranted. If you can improve the article's yourself, please do so. Our encylopedia should be about quality, not quantity. We have 2 million articles compared with Brittanica which has about 4500. We are not in any danger of disappearing if we remove the articles in the encylopedia which makes it worse as a whole.

Seraphim Whipp 10:12, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

That is simply not the case. There are many great articles that get prodded with no discussion whatsoever. Many of the ones that I de-prod wind up getting kept by consensus. If I objected to all deletion, I'd be de-proding many more. As it is, I find a handfull of articles every day or two that deserve to stay, or at least be discussed. The clip above is because some people feel that any contributions at all from an IP are vandalism, and that in a dispute with an IP user, the rules no longer apply.
Well why not make an account? IP edits are more likely to be considered as vandal edits because you have no name. There's psychology behind the reasons we can relate to someone, person to person if they have a name.
I would just like to remind you that once an article is deleted, it doesn't mean it can never be created again. Sometimes it's neccessary to delete content if it's no good. Reposting of the exact same deleted information is not allowed, however, recreating an article because you have improved on your own, is welcomed. A lot of users prefer to create articles in their sandbox. This is my sandbox User:Seraphim Whipp/Sandbox, where I myself have created an article before putting it into mainspace. I'm guessing people see your edits as disruptive because you don't really contribute anything to the articles you're de-prodding. Well there's my take. :-).
Seraphim Whipp 08:03, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Is Brad Todd, an article you de-prodded yesterday, a "great article" which will "wind up getting kept by consensus"? No, it's a three-line biography for a random executive, and it hasn't even been stubified (which if nothing else indicates that the author didn't think it would be getting expanded much). Yet again you failed to add anything to the article, and you provided no edit summary. In fact, the only time you seem to bother with edit summaries is when you're summarily re-de-prodding things. Chris Cunningham 08:26, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
You're just still upset that Eugene Armstrong got kept. By the way, Sokker Manager and Anne Neely got kept, and both were solid articles. Brad Todd is a fairly big name in his field, and should be discussed. 24.11.202.83 19:07, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] When deleting a prod...

...it would be helpful if you gave some indication as to why.

"To avoid confusion, it helps to explain why you object to the deletion, either in the edit summary or on the talk page."

Thanks, Mdbrownmsw (talk) 13:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Gyandzha Auto Plant

An article that you have been involved in editing, Gyandzha Auto Plant, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gyandzha Auto Plant. Thank you. Mdbrownmsw (talk) 15:19, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Overdose (band)

A tag has been placed on Overdose (band) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Mdsummermsw (talk) 15:58, 30 January 2008 (UTC)