Talk:21-gun salute

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[edit] Contradiction?

This article seems to contradict itself - it implies the Queen's official birthday may co-incide with the Duke of Edinburgh's birthday, then defines the first as (1st sat after Jun 11) and the other as June 10th... 131.111.135.27 11:39, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 19-gun salute?

The page 19-gun salute redirects here but there is no mention of the signifigance (or insignificance for that matter) of this smaller number of guns. I'm curious and my question is left unanswered. Does somebody know? If so, it would be good to mention it in the text of the article -- even briefly. --mako ^{(talk•contribs)} 16:38, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

A 19-gun salute (in the U.S. anyway) is reserved for a vice-head of state, and if I remember correctly, Chiefs of Staffs, Presidential Cabinet members, and 5-Star Generals. (years ago, this would be no-brainer, but, it's been a while though...) Ryecatcher773 05:48, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

In New Zealand, 21 is used for the Royal family while 19 is generally used for visiting foreign heads of state Goldfinger820 06:37, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

In the United Kingdom, 19-guns are for field marshals and equivalent (admirals of the fleet and air marshals); ambassadors, and heads of government, ie prime ministers. (Heads of state - presidents and monarchs - get 21-guns.)
Thus Tony Blair as the head of government but not head of state got a 19-gun salute when visiting South Africa The Guardian 1 July 2007
The remains of The Unknown Warrior were greeted on arrival at Dover from France on 9 November 1921 in the destroyer HMS Verdun by a 19-gun salute from the garrison battery of Dover Castle (p 435). A second 19-gun salute was given at 09:40 by the King's Troop, Royal Horse Artillery, in Hyde Park on 11 November 1921 as the signal for the start of the funeral procession to Westminster Abbey (p 447). The page numbers refer to: Hanson, Neil; The Unknown Soldier, 2007: Corgi Books, UK.
Churchill was also given one during his state funeral on 30 April 1965 BBC On This Day (Thirty Years Ago)

ROGER ^TALK 07:36, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Awesome. Thanks both of you for this information. I've added a summary of the information here to the text of the article. —mako ๛ 13:01, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] {{Globalize/en}}

I'm wondering about {{Globalize/en}} on this article. To what extent are 21 gun salute common military practice around the world? Is this article US/England centric because they are more widespread in those countries? —mako (talk•contribs) 19:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Unless I get an answer to this, I'm going to remove the template from the article page. —mako (talk•contribs) 15:09, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks whoever followed up on this. mako (talk•contribs) 17:51, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I can't comment on other countries, but Israel dors not use the gun salute. See reason and source under "other". I believe that using the Globalize template is neccesary here. DGtal (talk) 21:46, 23 April 2008 (UTC)