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Contents 1 'Weekend' is NOT the new single... 2 20 Y.O. has not sold 2.5 million... 3 Weekend is not the single! 4 John Mayer 5 Re-write 6 Album Cover 7 Copy Control 8 Cover Tampering 9 New York Times review 10 Copy edit 11 Error 12 YouTube links 13 Enjoy Has Been Confirmed to be the Third Single 14 Janet's positions in Colombia 15 20 Y.O. in Colombia 16 Janet featuring Mariah 17 Reviews 18 Copy edit needed

[edit] 'Weekend' is NOT the new single...

Janet's official website has confirmed that the song is not the new single, nor will it feature on the new album. Its just a 'taster' of whats to come. See www.janetjackson.comRimmers 19:08, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 20 Y.O. has not sold 2.5 million...

EMI Annual Report 2007 reports distributors has sold sold 1.2 million of 20 Y.O. "All sales figures are for the 12 months ended 31 March 2007. Unit sales include digital albums and digital track album equivalents." http://www.shareholder.com/visitors/dynamicdoc/document.cfm?CompanyID=EMIL&DocumentID=1798&PIN=&Page=3&Zoom=1x

[edit] Weekend is not the single!

Weekend isn't even a taste of 20 years old.

[edit] John Mayer

For some odd reason, someone went in the middle of a sentence and posted a link to John Mayer. Regardless of personal opinions (he sucks), it had nothing to do with Janet, so I edited it out.~CB

[edit] Re-write

Much of the article just includes direct copy and paste jobs from the EMI press release. Wikipedia isnt a news site - and this type of content isnt appropriate for Wikipedia. It needs a re-write to bring the article in line with Wiki regulations Rimmers 20:00, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Just to point out, this was done. The information does come from that press release, along with others but was put into our own words. Once the album comes out, the page will be completely re-written. For now, it gives a taste of what the album is about.

[edit] Album Cover

is this the current official cover? or the one that will be used after the 1-million copies? I was just wondering cause the results didn't come out yet and this could be submitted by anybody. I'm suspecting the authenticity of the cover. -- Omernos 22:24, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

The cover in the article at the moment is the official album cover; the competition where fans submit a cover is for the limited edition release of the album only. Rimmers 22:44, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copy Control

Does anyone know whether or not this release will have copy control (aka "copy protection") in the U.S.? EMI has never officially announced the end of copy control in the U.S. (it's been the only major label still using it in the U.S. since the 2005 Sony BMG CD copy protection scandal), but I haven't seen any new releases with it in months, and Macrovision quietly dropped Cactus Data Shield (EMI's copy control system) from the product list on its website. --RBBrittain 01:11, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cover Tampering

I deleted the album cover temporarily because someone tampered with the actual cover photo of 20 Y.O. Instead of Janet's face, there was another person attached to the artwork. A prank was pulled so if anyone could reinsert the proper photo -- it would be greatly appreciated.

[edit] New York Times review

I would say that the New York Times review is more negative than positive--the article complains about how her work for this album sounds like the works she's done prior to this record. I don't really see anything positive about the article, and if you do, please let me know I'm in the wrong.

[edit] Copy edit

Have copy-edited this article and removed the tag, but there are a few things that don't make sense! Someone who knows about this album, please fix the following:

• "The addition of producer Jermaine Dupri, quotes Jackson as saying..."
• In the Response section the sentence is "The album has gotten a mixed response from critics" is closely followed by "20 Y.O. has so far, even though early, proven to be a success with critics"

[edit] Error

MTV never "Refused to play" Janet Jackson. Virgin Records did NOT sign a promotional contract with MTV, therefore MTV had no obligation to promote Janet Jackson. Virgin only signed a contract with VH1 and BET with no interest in MTV until Virgin learned the trajectory of poor sales for Janet's new album. After this, Virgin crawled back to MTV by signing a small promotional contract to put Janet Jackson into mind and rotation.

Okay, I've edited the article to reflect this. However, there's going to have to be some evidence of this sooner or later... Brittany Ka 11:09, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] YouTube links

This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed, feel free to ask me on my talk page and I'll review it personally. Thanks. ---J.S (t|c) 06:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

To anyone editing this page in the future I decide to take out the last line of a commercial disappointment because it seemed a little malicious ok the album has shipped 1 million copies. Ok dont make projections. The time is still there fro the 1 million to sell so leave it be with that!

[edit] Enjoy Has Been Confirmed to be the Third Single

I added a link to the "Enjoy" single page, etc.

[edit] Janet's positions in Colombia

For some reason, there's someone posting Janet's 20 Y.O. album as being very successful in Colombia. Unfortunately, Janet doesn't do very well in Colombia. Her albums have never done well at all here. 20 YO has done poorly in sales and neither of the 2 singles released so far, has received any airplay. So please, whoever is posting these lies, STOP! and if they aren't lies, then let us know which are your sources!! As far as I know, Colombia lacks an official "music chart", besides the sales charts posted by each independent store....

[edit] 20 Y.O. in Colombia

--Cesarc1989 14:24, 10 February 2007 (UTC)20 Y.O. was never official released in Colombia, only 3 big music stores are selling the album in US$25 (too expensive). In Tower Records Colombia it peaked #20 in sales in the tower's shops in 5 different cities in Colombia. In Prodiscos peaked #17 in sales in the shops of 23 different cities in Colombia. But the album never entered on the official albums chart. The singles Call on Me and So Excited only got airplay in Medellín, in Bogotá the songs were never played at all.--Cesarc1989 14:24, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Janet featuring Mariah

I don't think Janet and Mariah are going to do a duet for the repackaged version of this album since both of them are working on new albums. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.22.196.111 (talk) 20:10, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reviews

I feel that section can be deleted from the article. There's already links to the reviews in the info box--if people want to read the reviews, they can just click the links in the info box instead of the summary at the bottom of this article. THE evil fluffyface (talk) 11:16, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copy edit needed

There's still a lot of messy expression in this article, lots of POV, and it lacks structure. I will try and clean it up at some point. (It also needs a bunch of references, but a good-faith cleanup seems like the place to start.) Gusworld (talk) 06:10, 8 April 2008 (UTC)