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This is a request to unblock. Much of the present material on the Cuba page was contributed by me (see contributions above [[1]]). However, with Grayban in the lead now a group of pro-Castro contributors are placing endless inaccurate information e.g. "Cuba is a democracy," Batista's opposition in 1952 was the Liberal party (a party that had been essential extinct for twenty years by that time) ad nauseum. The section now reads hundreds rather than hundreds of thousands of dead in the 1895-1898 "Reconcentracion" (it was one of the major democides of the late 19th century). Cuba declared war on Germany on December 9th 1941 not in 1944 as the section now reads. These less informed... also reject references to such as Graham Greene's "Our Man in Havana" (dunno why because Greene was a supporter of Castro), despite the interesting significance that the narration of the spurious vaccum cleaner/missile plans predates the actual missile crisis by several years, they have eliminated almost all of the indigenous resistance to the Spanish conquest. While extensive use of Arnold August's book on putative "elections on Cuba, there is no mention of the careful and scholarly work on the matter: López, Juan J. 2003 Democracy Delayed: The Case of Castro's Cuba The Johns Hopkins University Press Baltimore Maryland ISBN 0801870461. As to the present bemoaning of lack of references, the printed source list has been delegated to a limbo. You may note that I have been banned quite a number of times it is commonly based upon spurious accusations of "Vandalism", which usually turn out to be objections to factual referenced data I have added. El Jigue 4-16-06, 4-18-06, 4-19-06 4-20-06

I'm sorry, but I cannot see any reason to lift the current block. In addition to the vandalism, you have consistently violated many of our key policies including the three revert rule during your edit wars. The dispute resolution process would be the correct way to handle problems you encounter while editing. Choosing to use personal attacks and edit wars instead of discussion and concensus was the reason for the block, not simple vandalism. .:.Jareth.:. babelfish 18:21, 24 April 2006 (UTC)


Contents

Re Cuba -- some of your edits to the history section were good and interesting, but you stripped off all the links. Please try again, but without de-linking. If we can get past that, then the substantive changes you're proposing can get looked at. –Hajor 16:28, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Please see my reply on the talk page of why what you are doing is being done in the wrong place by and large. Caerwine 23:53, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words. However, I am not sure I can accept blame for stripping the links (El Jigüe, 9/29/26/2005)

Before you try placing back your additions to the history section of the Cuba article instead of placing them in the History of Cuba article which is where they belong, I urge you to consider that already the History section of the Cuba article is longer than the comparable section in most other country articles, including the United States article. The najor problem I have with your contributions is that you are putting them in the wrong place. Not that there aren't a few other minor issues, but those would be relatively easily resolvable if you would simply follow the example and format of the other Country articles and not try to cram too much data into them. Caerwine 14:12, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Taino bronze?

So far you haven't been able to provide a single source that indicates that the Arawaks knew of bronze. Copper, silver, and gold, but not bronze. All three metals can be found native and usually alloyed with one another to one degree or another, and were used ornamentally by a wide variety of neolithic cultures, including the Taino. Incidentally in your zeal to prove your point, you overlooked that one of the sources you did cite [2] says about their boat building technique on p. 2: "The fire and scraping method was used to fell the tree, shape the ends and hollow out the interior since the Indians had no metal tools." (Emphasis mine) The weight of available evidence clearly indicates that the Taino did not use metal tools. Caerwine 17:51, 1 October 2005 (UTC)


Caerwine the trouble with that argument is that the Taino used and had a name, guanín, for such brownish metal alloys or copper, or bronze which have characteristic smell which was very much appreciated according to the Padre de las Casas (see Zayas, Alfredo 1914 Lexicografia Antillana. Siglo XX, Havana pp. 265-266). Zayas notes that in district of Guaninao, Cuba there are copper mines. The Taino name for gold was caona (same cite). The Spanish at first confused guanín for gold but soon rectified the mistake. However, Sir Walter Raleigh did not and eventually lost head in part because of that stupid mistake. As to the huge canoes they were often made from the soft wood of the Ceiba tree (Ceiba pentandra); the principal instrument of their construction was fire limited by mud. It would be stupid to use guanín tools for that purpose. Besides why chop if you can burn. By the way that Zayas was President of Cuba, and a leader of the Liberal Party who lost the 1917 Chambelona war xe xe ¡AÉ, AÉ, ¡AÉ, la Chambelona! ....el alcalde de la Habana tiene las tetas de goma!..... (El Jigüe, 10/2/2005)

Copper is found in native alloys with gold or silver. On the other hand tin, zinc, or arsenic, which are what you need for primitive bronze, are not normally found native in association with copper, nor by themselves. Native copper alloys (aka guanin) are too soft to be effective tools, but bronze is hard enough to make chopping out the wood faster than charring it out. I doubt that the Taino would have been so stupid that if they had bronze, they wouldn't have used bronze tools. Lack of knowledge and stupidity are two enirely different things. The former can be cured by simple exposure to knowledge, the latter cannot. Don't be so quick to call all copper alloys bronze because they aren't. You are writing here in modern English, not Latin or 16th century Spanish. The Latin aes can mean copper, brass, or bronze. Zinc was likely an unknown metal to las Casas, as it was only in his latter years that it was first becoming known to Europeans. (The Asian Indians knew about it several centuries earlier). Caerwine 07:32, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

You make good points and they will be tracked down later. In Cuba copper gold and silver can be found in combination with manganese, used to harden steel as is nickel also found in Cuba. Will get back to you on this (El Jigüe, 10/9/2005)

ISBN links

You con't need to create links or articles for ISBN's. If you type ISBN followed by an ISBN number, the Wikimedia software will create a link for you to a page that will have links to a wide number of potential external sources of infornation on that book. Thus a book can be referenced in Wikipedia by its ISBN without having to create an article unless the book is significant in its own right.

Examples:

ISBN 1234567890

ISBN 1234567890

ISBN 1-23-456789-0

ISBN 1-23-456789-0

Hope this helps. Caerwine 06:39, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Caerwine thank you. Getting the hang of this (El Jigüe, 10/9/2005)

Please stop adding nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. Doc (?) 00:34, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Doc: interesting that you see factual corrections as vandalism. Well everybody has a right to his opinion. Oh wait a minute you seem to be from Glasgow the stamping ground of George Galloway who thinks that Saddam is G-d's gift to Iraq. Tell me how is good o'l George doing these days. BTW Calixto Sanchez of the doomed Corynthia expedition was born in Glasgow (El Jigüe, 10/12/2005)

Duplicative articles

Stop making duplicate articles. This is not good practice. If you want to use text different that the title of the link, you use: [[Article title|text that will appear]]. Please take some of the copious time you have and spend some of it learning how to make articles that conform to Wikipedia's formatting standards. I shouldn't be having to spend my time telling you these things, as there is a perfectly good manual on Wikipedia editting available from the help link in the sidebar. Please do yourself and others the courtesy of reading it at least once. Caerwine 03:43, 13 October 2005 (UTC)


Caerwine you might consider keeping the deletion wolves at bay first xe xe Someone has just removed a whole hunk of pre US mostly English Guantanamo history. And I have to correct a whole bunch of dislexic grammar, not that mine is perfect. BTW Some of the syntax and the drift of some inserts suggests you are getting input from Cuba xe xe (El Jigüey 10/13/05).

WP:3RR

Please review closely and adhere to the Wikipedia:three revert rule. Thanks. El_C 19:01, 14 October 2005 (UTC)


I suggest that you check the original article for obvious error, dislexia, most odd grammar, elimination of very significant cross links and pro-Castro bias. For instance that article insists that the unfortunate plane that crashed only was carrying athletes, when in fact the athletes were in Cuban army uniform, and were accompanied by significant Cuban and North Korean (yes I said North Korean) military officials, the 'gold medal' that is talked about was from the 1975 Pan American games. The unfortunate Guayanese medical students were on their way to indoctrination as well as medical studies. However it is wise to keep in mind that: a significant portion of "Medical" education in Cuba "seremos como el Che" is propaganda and intended to turn out "guerrilla-doctors" more like the US Special Forces doctors or the Che himself. In addition, Guyana has strategically significant bauxite (aluminium ore) reserves and was much fought over in the Cold War. This of course does not justify blowing up the plane; however, Castro has shot down not one but several civilian aircraft over international waters (notable the Brothers to the Rescue aircraft), thus a balanced presentation should show this as well.

Thus, my intent is to remove bias as following Wikipedia intent...otherwise, as is now, the article becomes an apologia for Castro and strangely enough Batista (El Jigüe, 10/14/2005).

Create an account

You seem to an active editor. It is adviseable for you to create an account. --Bletch 01:36, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Bletch Thank you but for now no thank you (El Jigüe, 10/21/2005)

Recreating deleted articles

Hi there. The article you are recreating was deleted by this debate: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cuba based espionage and destabilization operations. If you would like the article restored, please make a request at Wikipedia:Deletion review. But please do not simple recreate the article. Thanks. -Splashtalk 02:49, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes I here by formally request replacement. Unless of course you think poor Castro did not do a thing against the world, then that itswlf might be taken to suggest you are do not have a "neutral" point of view. This article is carefully documented. It would be proper to rebut or attempt to rebut points you disagree with. However, these were not minor operations but massive and prolonged. I notice you have an article defending the five "Red Avispa" tried and jailed Cuban spies. You do not have to believe me but read the losses Castro sustained who were from one small eastern town in Cuba. Many other towns have such lists....

List of locals of Chaparra (eastern Cuba) many who died in Angola, and other diverse “Cuban” wars , such as the War Against Batista, the “War Against the Bandits,” the Wars of Independence, and a couple who died in the 1953 assault at Moncada. It seems that many such places in Cuba publish such lists on the web. I found interesting those killed at “El Jobo” late in the War Against Batista, because I had never had known of them.

http://www.tunet.cult.cu/pagsec/municip/menendez/enero.htm http://www.tunet.cult.cu/pagsec/municip/menendez/febrero.htm http://www.tunet.cult.cu/pagsec/municip/menendez/marzo.htm http://www.tunet.cult.cu/pagsec/municip/menendez/marzo.htm also has april http://www.tunet.cult.cu/pagsec/municip/menendez/mayo.htm http://www.tunet.cult.cu/pagsec/municip/menendez/junio.htm http://www.tunet.cult.cu/pagsec/municip/menendez/julio.htm http://www.tunet.cult.cu/pagsec/municip/menendez/agosto.htm http://www.tunet.cult.cu/pagsec/municip/menendez/septiembre.htm http://www.tunet.cult.cu/pagsec/municip/menendez/octubre.htm http://www.tunet.cult.cu/pagsec/municip/menendez/noviembre.htm http://www.tunet.cult.cu/pagsec/municip/menendez/diciembre.htm

(El Jigüe, 10/22/2005)

Please take the request to: Wikipedia:Deletion review. If you recreate the article again, anywhere, under any title without doing so, I will block you from editing Wikipedia. -Splashtalk 18:24, 23 October 2005 (UTC)


I see interesting attitude, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm (El Jigüe, 10/22/2005)


Apparently a very young Administrator Splash I believe from Bath England feels it incumbent to block, a piece I have on the history of Cuban espionage. Not alter it, not challenge it but simply block it.

What he/she writes is:

“Please take the request to: Wikipedia:Deletion review. If you recreate the article again, anywhere, under any title without doing so, I will block you from editing Wikipedia. -Splashtalk 18:24, 23 October 2005 (UTC)”

While I don’t know Splash’s background nor her/his credentials to do this. Here are some of mine, my family is part Taíno (Siboney), and has been prominent, even famous, through out known Cuban history. I fought in Castro’s forces for almost a year in 1958; during that time I participate in a number of military actions, but never executed anybody. It was the executions that made me break with Castro, in 1961 I was later jailed by Castro and was released through diplomatic intervention. Then I was coerced to leave the country. Having remade my life as an academic, and I am now a full professor in the sciences looking towards retirement. In my field I have almost a hundred refereed scientific publications, and have published (hard copy) probably more than ten publications on Cuba history and associated topics.

I am using the pseudonym (El Jigüe) because of my academic position and because as compromise is reached in each section, I wish merely to contribute and not to be responsible for the final product.


It is my opinion that “Splash” might well be reminded that rather than deleting an article, and insisting on blocking it (and anything else I submit), a far more productive attitude would be to challenge specific parts of the article and attempt a compromise.

Sincerely El Jigüe User talk:205.240.227.15

Sunday, October 23, 2005
I just discovered you have pasted the article into both this talk page and Wikipedia talk:Administrators. I have removed the article, but left your message (which you have now left in no fewer than 3 places). Per my warning above, I have blocked you for 24 hours. When you return, please allow the debate at Deletion Review to run its course. Thank you. -Splashtalk 22:56, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Grammar

If you find spelling mistakes, fix them, rather than crying on and on about them. That is not productive. — BRIAN0918 • 2005-11-8 17:38

Brian:

I prefer to point them out and leave them because the syntax, style and grammar often reveal their origins, as they seem mere crude translations of Spanish originals. These errors are particularly amusing in passages praising the Cuban educational system. Hopefully this way Castro propaganda directors will assign a better class of apologists to Wikipedia. Xe xe (El Jigüey 10/8/05)

Cuban espionage article

Hello,

Under Wikipedia policy, articles which are duplicated re-creations of previously-deleted articles can be speedily deleted and I have done so.

Please see the comment at: [3].

It might be useful to have an article about Cuban espionage on Wikipedia, but it would need to conform to Wikipedia:Neutral point of view policy. Can you let me know what the original title of this article was, and then it could perhaps be nominated at Wikipedia:Deletion review to get community opinion on whether it should be restored. However, simply continually re-creating a deleted article (with the same title or a different one) is against Wikipedia policy.

-- Curps 23:02, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Xe xe So based on a single spurious and provably distorted opinion you deleted the whole article. I notice you did hot bother to read my rebuttal. You might note that there is no “Neutral Point of View” with a totalitarian dictator as such as Castro, for it is his way or the highway. El Jigüe 11/25/05

Wikipedia's official policy is Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. We have lots of articles about controversial people and topics, and they should always be phrased as neutral encyclopedia articles, not as magazine articles or opinionated essays (see Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not). Also, all information has to be verifiable: an encyclopedia is a secondary source of information (collecting and combining facts from various primary sources), not a vehicle for original scholarly research (Wikipedia:No original research). What you wrote reads more like a chapter of a book (with opinions and some speculation added in) rather than an encyclopedia article.

Creating multiple duplicated copies of the same article under different titles is also very much against Wikipedia policy, and re-creations of previously validly deleted articles can be speedily deleted. Please don't do this. Perhaps if you registered an account as User:El Jigüe for greater credibility and agreed not to create multiple duplicates and try to follow Wikipedia:Neutral point of view it might be possible to try again at Wikipedia:Deletion review after a few weeks. But remember, Wikipedia pages have to be written in the style of an encyclopedia article: essays or articles suitable for scholarly research journals (original research), no matter how well written, aren't suitable content for Wikipedia. Phrasing like "Batista's elegant goon", for instance, really isn't encyclopedic style. -- Curps 05:42, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Please don't repeatedly add links to a deleted article. This is apparently an attempt to justify the need for the article from links to it. However, this is considered vandalism; see WP:POINT, for one. Please desist; if you feel the need to contest the deletion, there are more constructive ways to do so. Try posting on the article talk page, or see Wikipedia:Undeletion_policy. Thanks. // Pathoschild 00:09, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: Culture clash pathologies

I think what the nominator objects too is the tone of the article. Permit me the liberty of making a few suggestions, taking your first paragraph as an example:

When the Americas were discovered by the Europeans, it is well known that those whose ancestors had discovered these lands far before succumbed to diseases like smallpox. What is less well known are the diseases and other pathologies the Europeans took back with them. Most consider syphilis to be an American disease, although there are some who claim otherwise. What is known that syphilis broke out enormously strongly in Europe when Christopher Columbus returned from his voyages; in addition, and the toll of introduction of tobacco into Europe is still immense [1] and certainly over the years exceed the toll of the horrible massacres that accompanied the conquests of the lands of America, such as those narrated by Bartolomé de Las Casas.

  1. The first sentence should usually define the topic, e.g. "Culture clash pathologies refers to the transmission of disease between populations, formerly widely separated, who come into contact" or something like that.
  2. "...those whose ancestors had discovered these lands far before..." -- Much too flowery for an encyclopedia article. Replace with "Native Americans".
  3. "...the toll of the horrible massacres..." -- Far too flowery, wordy, and emotionally charged for encyclopedia article. Could be replaced with the single word "deaths".
  4. "lands of America" -- just say "America". Think dry and boring, not prosy and creative. It's an encylopedia.
  5. "...such as those narrated by Bartolome de Las Casas..." -- Getting off-topic here. Got to be crisp and concise and move the topic forware with every sentence, not get sidetracked.

If I may make a suggestion? Find some good articles and use them as guides. Perhaps try writing some very small articles about minor topics, for practice. Culture clash pathologies, after all, is a potentially huge topic; perhaps you might want to work up to it? Also, I've found the book The Elements of Style by Strunk & White to be extremely helpful. It's a short book and an easy read, and I recommend it highly.

Hope I haven't been to harsh on you, I really want you to be able to able to shake off the nomination and go on to some great editing! Herostratus 08:25, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Herostratus thank you for your kind remarks. I have addressed all suggestions including the name change. The article is now entitled: Cultural collisions and mutual lethal contact. El Jigüe 12/2/05


Sweden/Cuba

Sweden is a constitutional monarchy and elected a conservative government in 1976 and 1991. Jooler 22:36, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

The above comment has been modified to remove a personal attack. // Pathoschild 22:47, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
I would like to make an observation but a certain user who will remain nameless keeps editing my observation out, so I will rephrase it. There are some people in this world who might consider that a person who adds a phrase to an article which suggests that a constitutional monarchy is a close analog of one party communist state might not be the full shilling. Now you someone might think that, but I couldn't possibly comment. Jooler 23:38, 4 December 2005 (UTC)


Xe! xe! Han! Han! Gresham's law roughly "bad coinage replaces good money." Now why would I think if they were both socialist that they would differ xe! xe! I think after this little adventure in the absurd we surely can call Cuba's government communist... xe xe El Jigüe 12/4/05

Talk:Cuba

Please stop removing content from Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Owen× ☎ 00:29, 6 December 2005 (UTC)


OwenX: Another good Welsh name!!! xe xe! You might notice that what I did today was consolidate Vittorio Vidale and Vittorio Vidale. All content is retained. ""As to your accusation:"' What content did I remove in Talk:Cuba if you are going to throw such accusations around you need to be specific. Some idiot has removing my History of Cuban Espionage, because he feels it is not true, with a barrage of false accusations and other mendacities. Please don't tell me you are going to have another show trial, remove my material and then condemn. El Jigüe 12/05/05

I am talking about this edit, where you removed half the contents of that Talk page, most of it comments from other people. I'm not interested in any other disputes you may have. Removing other people's comments from Talk pages is considered vandalism. Owen× ☎ 00:49, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Are you sure that is me, for I have no recall of such. I keep a file of such comments for use in a scholarly article on Wikipedia I plan to give next year. If you can be more specific, I can probably replace them from copies in my own files El Jigüe 12/05/05

It's the same IP address as you are using right now, as you can clearly see, and the same article you are still editing, so yes, it's you. Please don't waste my time with these games. Owen× ☎ 01:02, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

OwenX I went to the file you cited this edit and found that at least half was my stuff, on organic farming in Cuba which was carefully documented and properly cited by the way. Think why would I want to deliberately remove my own material? El Jigüe 12/05/05


BTW What source of nitrogen were you using, nitrogen fixing trees are probable better than bush legumes in Cuba. The marabu (Dichrostachys) already there probably does a good job, nasty stuff though. I suggest you check in Allen and Allen Leguminosae ISBN 033322215 for something "native", although you should be able to find some stuff in the old "Maderas Cubanas" by Fors, or the comprehensive "Phytogeography" of Borhidi. El Jigüe 12/05/05

Go ahead restore your stuff, but I still do not think it is me the one who deleted it. Especially since I keep getting my stuff interrupted. Why don't you make a link and develop a new section something like: Organic Agriculture in the tropics. I would be most interested to see what you have. I am especially interested in Jigüe the tree form of that mythical dark water spirit, Lysiloma latisiliqua, it has abundant small seed and grows fast. El Jigüe 12/05/05

Is this You?

El Jigue: I think that I started this story, though, like you, I was not registered - or at least signed on - at the time, so like to track it. Thanks for bringing it alive - you know, with all those dead people.. I have discovered no down side to registering, but do what feels comfortable. I somewhere have the story of what happens after he returns to Italy - he is a high ranking CP member and a member of Parliament and lives to a ripe old age. I'll add more when I find where I have it hidden. My library is arranged in psychlogical order, so I have to be in the identical frame of mind as I was when I "filed" it in order to find it. Carptrash 02:00, 6 December 2005 (UTC)


Carp thank you I will include that tomorrow. El Jigüe 12/05/05

I am thinking of removing this sentence - " It is noted that in an avowedly communist web site Mella, Modotti and Vidale are cropped from the image [2]. " - because I am not sure that it represents an attitude by the folks who posted it. Or, if it does, what that attitude might be. When Stalin had people removed from a photo they were GONE. In this case the picture is just cropped to focus on Frida. But I won't do it without discussing it with you first. Carptrash 16:36, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Interesting, Let me ponder it; for it could be said to fits with the purges of the people involved, in a gentler way. Besides who would want to look at Frida when one could see the far more beautiful Tina. Perhaps the cropping could be dealt with in a better way. BTW the site does not seem to say it was cropped which is essentially dishonest, and I think vandalizes the mural. El Jigüe 12/05/05

List of Cubans

Please try not to put notes on List of Cubans. You can either add those people yourself (go ahead) or put that concern on the talk page, but I would encourage you not to make edits like [4] on the page itself. Thanks, – ugen64 18:17, 9 December 2005 (UTC)


Xe xe The list as is biased towards Castro government, and many are selectedly omitted. Xe xe Omitting Antonio Maceo today indicates that some involved in this page know little or nothing of Cuban history. El Jigüe 12/9/05

This message is regarding the page Fidel Castro. Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 21:08, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Joss perhaps you might remove those segments of late Fidel Castro history that are propaganda. The idea that Castro is in vigorous health is absurd. It is my understanding that Castro is nearly dead or not expected to live out 2006. El Jigüe 12/25/05


Félix Rodríguez

Regarding your edits to the Félix Rodríguez (Central Intelligence Agency) article, would you please WP:CITE sources for your additions and changes? As the article currently stands, it is completely without references. Best regards, Hall Monitor 21:55, 4 January 2006 (UTC)


Hall Monitor: Working on that right now. Some has gotten erased already. I have the book citation and some of the stuff is from web cites. El Jigüe 1-4-06


Government and politics role of state security

Apparently "Sam Korn" does not like criticism of Seguridad del Estado. Korn made an immediate delete of data from Reporters without Frontiers, and Amnesty International, El Jigüe 1/20/2006

Anti-communist edits

Hi! I noticed that many of your edits tend to come from a anti-communist slant. Although we may not agree with the Cuban system, I believe it is best to present the information fairly and let the reader decide for themselves --readers know when they are being preached too! It would make it so much easier if others didn't have to follow your footsteps to apply a neutral point of view. Thanks! --Colle 04:01, 30 January 2006 (UTC)


Colle: Thank you for your kind attention to my edits. All of the material I present is documented. However, it merely backs first hand knowledge, for I was in the Sierra Maestra with the Castro forces for sometime. There I saw combat but I never executed anybody (even though that was dangerous position to take). Later at the time of the Bay of Pigs I was jailed by Castro. Much of what you may view as propaganda, is far closer to objective reality than you may imagine...El Jigüe 1/19/06


Please stop blanking pages or adding nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. --Jay(Reply) 19:54, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

Do not be so hasty to blame me. I removed some irate notations and replaced them with a reality check, warning that the political section has little bearing on practical reality, for I am sure you do not view such critical evaluations of the Cuban government's lack of adherence to their own procedures as vandalism. Take care and be well. El Jigüe 1-30-06

I see where you are coming from, and your reversion of vandalism to the Cuba article is clearly illustrated here. I do not blame you for that. However, adding, and I quote, "Casey and Alycia dont like this site because it isnt trust worthy!!!! :)" is Vandalism. Don't do it. I hope that is clear. --Jay(Reply) 01:52, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

That is another one I cleaned up? Why are are you are holding me responsible for what others do. What gives! El Jigüe 1-30-06

The lack of adherence by the Castro government to its own rules was clearly illustrated in [5]. El Jigüe 1-30-06

Please Please stop

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.

You are making an insane amount of bull/pov edits regarding Cuba, numerous editors have politely asked you to stop. I don't know what to say other than give it a rest, wikipedia is not an outlet for your counter-revolutionary cause!

For example, your latest edit inserts the following into a paragraph on the constitutional legitimacy of one party rule:
However, Cuba is ruled by a one party authoritarian system, which will ignore these very controlling rules if they believe the survival of Communist state is threatened. The most famous recent instance is the Vladimiro Roca et al petition [6], where even Vladimiro's status as son of a founder of the Cuban Communist, was not enough to fully protect him.
I am positive now that you fully understand that these kind of statements are opinion. Most of your edits are opinion/blatant lies, taken from dissident propaganda sites.--Colle 02:55, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Colle thank you for your opinion while not understanding why you feel so I am hurt by your pain, but I am glad to live in a free country. If your hurt is prelude to threats and action please stay calm and refrain from such thoughts.

Your recourse is simple, please challenge what you view as my "lies" with some sort of data supporting your view of objective reality.

Please bear in mind that "facts" have been defined (although I accept a more rigorous definition objective view as to what is a fact) as the opinion of leaders in the various fields of thought. Thus, following this definition in Cuba what you say is correct. However, out of Cuba what I write is considered to be a reflection of objective reality.

From your dateline one could presume you live in Europe thus you too are free, where one can have choice of who governs and what you can read. Don't you think Cubans on the Island deserve the same, and do not have to flee to other lands to be able to express their opinion. El Jigüe 2/1/06.

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. "Do not make personal attacks anywhere in Wikipedia. Comment on content, not on the contributor. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users." Please keep this in mind while editing. Thanks, --LBMixPro<Speak|on|it!> 19:24, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
This is not about me, my life is really none of your business. My only "pain" is regarding basic wikipedia policy, which you have chosen not to follow. We shouldn't be forced to deal with editors who insist on inserting their point of view, believe me, if you edited as a communist revolutionary, it would cause just as much pain. Feel free to view yourself as a soldier of freedom, but please make your contribution outside wikipedia.--Colle 03:07, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Blocked!

You have been temporarily blocked from editing for vandalism of Wikipedia. If you wish to make useful contributions, you may do so after the block expires. LBMixPro<Speak|on|it!> 19:15, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

sorry not a soldier of freedom

Colle: My efforts are merely a penance for my youthful support of Castro in the mountains.....


Yes I understand that in your view Wikipedia is neutral on freedom


take care and be well

El Jigùe 2-10-06

STOP

It is time you stop adding lies and propaganda to cuban related articles. The sad thing is 90% of your edits seem to be getting through. The week long block was for a reason, please take note of that. You make so many edits, I don't have near enough time to check them all, but your most recent edit [7] claims that the cuban green agriculture is "exagerated." The source you used states, and i quote "Without a doubt, the largest-scale and most-studied example of an economically driven shift to organic farming methods is that of Cuba."

There is NO DOUBT that you are maliciously inserting complete fabrications and lies into Cuban articles to suit your counter-revolutionary goals! I wish I knew why the admin seems reluctant to stop you.--Colle 02:10, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Colle: thank you for your kind attention to my posts. I picked that reference, out of many such, since it was from Greenpeace, and thought you might find this source more to your liking. BTW In English ”Cuban “is usually spelled with an upper case C, rather than the lower case as in “cubano” in Spanish and “exaggerated” is most commonly written with double “gg.” El Jigüe 10-11-06


Please stop adding nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. Shanel 02:08, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Shanel: could you be a little more specific, and provide details as to the nature of my putative Vandalism. El Jigüe 2-11-06

Please sign properly

Please sign talk pages (and your comments in the RFC) with four tildes (~~~~). --Colle|Image:locatecolle.gif|Talk-- 22:35, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Dear Colle: do you think it appropriate to make such demands when you are party to this "controversy" Take care and be well El Jigüey 2-12-06

Please Stop

Please stop blanking pages or adding nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. --Colle|Image:locatecolle.gif|Talk-- 22:45, 13 February 2006 (UTC)


Why Colle nothing could be further from the truth, I am busy evaluating the works of Radical Philospher Arnold August [8] that you so kindly brought to my attention. El Jigüe 2-13-06

WP:3RR

Please do not revert an article 3 times in one day, you have been informed about this before. Also, please follow NPOV along with all other wikipedia policies and guidelines. I have brought these up in the RFC --Colle|Image:locatecolle.gif|Talk-- 00:02, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

By my count Mr Colle you have made at least five reverts today

Could it be that Colle has made at least five complete sections and occasionally whole article reverts today. El Jigüe 2-13-06

You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future. Since you had previously been blocked a week and failed to comply with Wikipedia regulations, this time, you are being blocked for 8 days. --Nlu (talk) 00:36, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Be cold

You may get more, if you calculate. You produce problems by yourself. Why don't you register? Xx236 15:18, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Xx236 is another person

Niu If you had taken the trouble to compare my syntax with that of Xx236 you would have realized that you are dealing with another person. Still although I do not understand his comment above, I do thank Xx236 for what I presume is his kind support. El Jigüe 2-16-06

I'm Xx236.

If you register, you will sign your entries by four "~". Xx236 15:17, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Cuba

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. +Hexagon1 (talk) 02:28, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Block

You have been temporarily blocked from editing Wikipedia for 24 hours due to vandalism. Upon your return, please adhere to Wikipedia policy. El_C 02:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Wow that was fast El Jigue 3-8-06

We aim to please. Mackensen (talk) 02:38, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Pls stop such edits

I see that you have added yet another anti-stalin edit to MRP article. What you say is mostly accurate, but pls consider the context -- is it really right to post Trotsky's murder sentence next to paragpraph on Romania's contributions? You make your political beliefs ridiculous acting this way, and really, anti-communist vandalism is not smth i'd appreciate, for it is only in the interest of wikicommies. --Constanz - Talk 16:14, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I've reverted your edit, as it's absolutely out of context. I appreciate your opposition to bloody communist tyrants, but pls remain cool.--Constanz - Talk 16:20, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

On anti-stalinism

Dear El Jigue, thank you for your information. As you might have concluded from my edits, I'm also actively participating campaign for clarifying stalinist-communist crimes. If you can cite your sources for such claims and contribute to articles concerned, then as for me -- go, anti-communists, go!

You said:It is notable that the famous Chilean Stalinist poet Pablo Neruda (read his ode to Stalin, and his written praise of Batista) I've myself heard from Neruda's (and aragon's) stalin panegyrics, could you give me a link so that one could glance at those.

My special interest is also Communists were sabotaging war efforts in France and even England. I have claimed the same, but unfortunately there's not enough material on the net. I think this theme deserves a more thourough depiction. Regards,--Constanz - Talk 11:42, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Constanz some time ago I placed a certain amount of such material at the Pablo Neruda, Julio Antonio Mella, Ramon Mercader and the Vittorio Vidali sites. Some of the sources for these sites are in Spanish which if you know Rumanian may be directly understandable to you. The French and English troubles are from hard copy volumes. Will post more citations to hard copy when I get a chance. El Jigue 4-1-06

El Comandante continuously whitewashing Fidel Castro page

As you've probably noticed, this guy uncritical of Castro constantly erases some critical material (sourced!!!) which I of course have re-added a while later. I think it's time one raised the question of such unjustified actions by this user; something ought to be done to prevent such obvious pursuit of biased edtions. --Constanz - Talk 06:36, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


Constanz, a more subtle approach that has been used is to have a third party delete references, them demand these references again, and finally because the references are "lost" erase the passage in question. El Jigue 4-10-06


This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, as you did to Cuba, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Scott Grayban 18:49, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

If you continue to violate the WP:NPOV and WP:3RR you will be blocked from here. Cuba is NOT your personal play page to do as you wish with it. --Scott Grayban 21:02, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Is there some hidden anger you have? Calling people idiots and such is not helping the issue at ahnd on Cuba. Now this is the last time I'll warn you about your actions on WikiPedia. They are not constructive and you could use your efforts to write a draft up and post it in a sandbox for others to see and read. Instead your obnoxious and rude to everyone because they don't see it your way. Real sad. No more warnings after this one. Next time its just going to be a block for a few weeks. --Scott Grayban 14:52, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Personal Attacks

The next time you paste a warning from your talk page where I have put it and put on Talk:Cuba and top it off by insulting me with it I will take it as a Personal Attack on me and have your editing rights taken. Just becuase you think I am a lowly RC pratroller does not mean I have to take your abuse like you do think others should. I am not joking about this at all. You have insulted me more than once on Talk:Cuba. --Scott Grayban 17:35, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Deletions on personal page

I note with interest (and quite some delight for they support my allegations of wide spread bias) the deletions on my personal page. Obviously these have been copied elsewhere to my own files. It is also of some interest that my appeal has also been removed. El Jigue 4-20-06

I suggest you find yourself a username and become a decent registered user.--Constanz - Talk 10:31, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, the holy struggle against communist bandits ruling countries and their shit-for-brains admirers must go on (presence of some academics like [9] prove the struggle must remain active in the West [10]).--Constanz - Talk 17:09, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Okay, you have been unblocked on May 9; so, great editing.--Constanz - Talk 07:02, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Ubre Blanca

Hi El Jigue, I've just written a page on Ubre Blanca the cow that was used by Castro as a ridiculous publicity stunt. Feel free to take a look, I refer to a poem - if you can find it on the net that may interest you. As it compares Castro's fist entering the cow to his governance of Cuba!--Zleitzen 18:58, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry Jigue, I think we got caught up in an edit conflict over the suicide figures. And both answered the same question at the same time.--Zleitzen 16:08, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Democratic Social-Revolutionary Party of Cuba

Hi El Jigue, do you know anything about these guys - the Democratic Social-Revolutionary Party of Cuba? I'm looking for more info, are they ideological descendents of the "Partido Socialista Popular" or even Grau from further back? By the way, you're right there are huge gaps in the history of Cuba page as I'm finding out more - Castro tends to hog the damn story to the detriment of a lot of material. --Zleitzen 02:04, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Caribbean sea stuff

You realize that the Caribbean sea is a category for water crashes, right? WhisperToMe 17:23, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

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