User talk:204.52.215.14

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Do you have a reference that labial clicks are sometimes labiodental? kwami (talk) 00:59, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

yes! Though, labiodental was a poor choice on my part for a description: "In some productions the lower lip may articulate against the upper teeth" (Ladefoged, Peter and Maddieson, Ian. 1996. The Sounds of the World's Languages. Cambridge: Blackwell Publishers.)

Ah, I see: it doesn't start that way, but passes through a labiodental stage. — kwami (talk) 18:48, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, yes. I think I remember reading somewhere (Traill 1985, maybe?) a description that sounded like a genuine labio-dental, but I can't find it again. It's possible I'm misremembering, and conflating this with the secondary dental closure some speakers have for labial clicks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.127.22.181 (talk) 14:14, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


Update: ladefoged & traill (1994) says 'in some tokens, the lip may articulate against the upper teeth'. Not entirely clear on what that means, probably it's the same phenomenon they mention in SOTWL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.127.22.181 (talk) 04:37, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

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