User talk:204.17.104.110

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[edit] No advertisements

Please stop adding links to bookrags.com to Wikipedia. Links to commercial sites (which charge for content) are not acceptable on Wikipedia (see NOT). If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing. | Keithlaw 20:29, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to use Wikipedia for advertising, you will be blocked from editing. Andrew pmk | Talk 20:43, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

REPLY: All links that I have provided are 100% free. Those links were not to commercial products at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.17.104.110 (talk • contribs) 21:41, 11 November 2005

  • That is false. I went to the bookrags.com Web site and found that most of the materials on each book are behind a subscription wall - plot summaries, critical essays, and so on. Those links violate Wikipedia's "no advertisements" policy, and if you continue to add them, they'll be deleted and you will be blocked from editing. | Keithlaw 22:03, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Proof: Subscription page | Keithlaw 22:06, 11 November 2005 (UTC)


REPLY: Okay, just so I understand. The links were only to the free book notes. The entire book note on those links were 100% free. They include the plot summaries, critical essays, etc that are free. In addition, this is what Wikipedia says,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOT "Advertising. Articles about companies and products are fine if they are written in an objective and unbiased style. Furthermore, all article topics must be third-party verifiable, so articles about very small "garage" companies are not likely to be acceptable. External links to commercial organizations are acceptable if they can serve to identify major corporations associated with a topic (see finishing school for an example). Please note Wikipedia does not endorse any businesses and it does not set up affiliate programs."

I have no intention of doing something wrong, but I was trying to add a good link to a free service. While I know there are pay products, those links are directly to entirely free content. I thought that someone reading about a book might want to have free access to that content. But, I'll stop, I don't want to offend anyone, I was just trying to help improve Wiki. I love Wiki, I thought this might be a good addition. Again, I'm very sorry if it was wrong. I was just basing the links on the above paragraph from Wiki. Just to confirm, you still think they are incorrect? Thanks for your insight.

  • I followed one of your links and found that most of the content required either a subscription or "credits" obtained by contributing essays. In my opinion, that violates the no-advertising policy because the product offered isn't completely free; furthermore, there are plenty of other sites that offer similar materials with no strings attached, so favoring bookrags with links seems like an endorsement. I also think that in the future, when you find something that you think might be worth adding to Wikipedia articles, try adding it at first to just two or three articles and see what feedback you get. By adding it to eleven articles in a very short time period, you raised suspicions that you were spamming the site. | Keithlaw 22:56, 11 November 2005 (UTC)