Talk:2018 Winter Olympics

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[edit] NEW: The Olympic Rule

We should make a rule to only make a page for ONE (1) Olympic Game that have yet to be unassigned. For example... Since 2010 is Vancouver, 2014 is unassigned, the Olympic articles should stop. (But since we already said keep) So when 2014 gets assigned, don't make a 2022 page until 2018 get assigned. Same can go for other events. So we're not just making pages for the sake of making pages, but we're not waiting until the last minute to make the page. It'll sort of be a compromise, so these pages don't get too far out of control. Agree/Disagree? Moonraker0022 08:11, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

A volcanic eruption in Rome ? Hektor 01:22, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I personal believe that Norway and Sweden would search together, as they don't have to build as many arenas as expected. Norway's success during the Lillehammer '94, and the fact that Östersund/Åre actually seemed to have gotten the 2014 Olympics if they had bidden, is a great reason.

  • Granåsen, Norway had the 1997 Nordic Ski WCH, and would host the Nordic Skiing events.
  • The alpine skiing would be hosted in Åre.
  • Tänndalen, Sweden is annually an freestyle/snowboard WC arrangeur, and would have these events.
  • One of the best Norwegian ice hockey teams, TIK Black Panthers, comes from Trondheim, and their ice rink would have to be underdoing permanently works to satisfy IOC, but they would have one of the ice hockey competitions. The Z-hall in Östersund and the local hall in Brunflo would be the other halls needed. The swedish halls would be women's halls due to the interest differences between Norway and Sweden.
  • Oppdal is the curling capital of Norway, and luckily it's within the given borders of Trøndelag.
  • The 2008 Biathlon World Championships is scheduled to Östersund, and it's the largest biathlon centre in Sweden.
  • Short track skating would be hosted at Genvalla rinkbandyarena. A roof and extensive stands would be built to temporarily confirm Olympic status.
  • New arenas for figure and speed skating would be permanently built in Norway, while bobsleigh, luge and skeleton would be a swedish event.
Erik Iversen, Trondheim, Norway        14.41, 12 February 2006 (UTC+1)

[edit] Salt Lake City

Salt Lake is highly unlikely to be picked again,though. Only if the host city picked by the IOC rejects the games, or disaster strikes. After this Salt Lake might be picked. (see the 1976 Winter Olympics) (moved from main page to talk page)

  • Athens, Los Angeles, Lake Placid, London (three times), Paris, St. Moritz (20 years apart in 1928 and 1948), and Innsbruck. Have all hosted the olypics multiple times. The fact that the 2002 Olympics were successful would allow Salt Lake City for future consideration. (Hypernick1980 00:11, 11 April 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Asheville

Please provide a source for the Asheville thing. Hektor 19:41, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

A quick Google seems to indicate that the only sites claiming an Asheville Winter Olympic bid are mirrors of Wikipedia and a Geocities page of very little merit. The Geocities user name, and Yahoo e-mail name given is the same as our Londonf2012, a user who has more than 85% of their edits in support of this theoretical Asheville Olympic bid. This user seems to be the only source of Asheville information on this page, as well. I've removed the Asheville Olympic bid information, and I think that given the nature of the Asheville booster (who suggested himself as the Olympic bid chair in one of his edits), mentions of Asheville as a host should be removed from this article until one (1) mainstream media link is provided to support the existance of any level of planning for an Olympic bid by anyone other than Londonf2012.
While it's very good that someone is keen to see the Olympics in their (presumable) home city, if we listed and described every single city that could theoretically host an Olympics and had at least one person who wanted to, this article would be hundreds of pages long. --ByeByeBaby 06:57, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
I agree with that, first of all, it is great that he seems to want to boost his hometown for the games. We need something concrete, if there was something going on there would have been something posted on a news outlet in Asheville and more then likely city officals would have given their blessing. I feel that untill we get something from a reliable news source that this falls in the same kind of category as original research. Hypernick1980 07:20, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Olympic bidding is a competition of cities. I think that a good benchmark would be to have a documented statement from the municipal authorities of a given city. For instance, when the mayor of Grenoble says, "we intend to bid", even if there is neither a web site nor an official bid committee already set up, I think it is good to include it. When Mr Average Joe from Asheville (or Elkins, by the way), creates a geocities web site which mimicks an official bid web site, I would tend to ignore it.Hektor 07:01, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Elkins, West Virginia

Does anyone have proof, such as a statement from a civic leader or a valid news source about the Elkins, West Virginia bid for the 2018 games. I googled it and could not find anything. To me it looks like this could be fiction Hypernick1980 22:41, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Considering that should a city choose to make a bid, that said city/township would most likely have the finances to purchase a domain and secure more professional web development than is displayed on the referenced site, I think this can be ruled as fiction. Also, I'm having a hard time believing that a city such as this would use such horrid Flash animation on their website, or Flash animation of that nature at all. --IndigoAK

Not to mention, where would they hold the downhill?

The Elkins 2018 website said that the downhill events will be held at Canaan Valley. I think Downhill refers to Alpine Skiing. Jim856796 03:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Small country, big ambition

Doesn't Liechtenstein lack a sufficient area of land to hold such a prestigious event; in this case the 2018 winter olympics. I'm not saying the country doesn't have the finance or infrastructure (meaning services) to hold the olympics, my biggest worry is the problem of the arena, skiing locations (are there enough) and athlete accomadation.Lietchenstein can't be a joint-host alongside Austria or Switzerland as it will be over shadowed and seem polintless. I feel the best option for Liechtenstein is joint-host the olympics; not with Swtzerland but with the Canton of St. Gallen or possibly Graubünden. This solution would allow Liechtenstein to equally host the olympics with a Canton which would otherwise not be able to host the event solely. Freddieandthedreamers 21:39, 20 January 2007 (UTC)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Freddieandthedreamers (talk • contribs) 23:32, 19 January 2007 (UTC).

  • Did Liechtenstein attempt a bid for Winter Games before? Or did someone put Vaduz there randomly? If theres no reference, we can probably take Liechentstein and a few other nations off the list of potential bids. xero 06:12, 23 August 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xero-7 (talk • contribs).

[edit] North American Bid

Everything for a US bid for 2018 is up in the air. If Chicago gets the summer games in 2016: The US will have no chance to get the Winter Olympics in 2018. So how can we even have a North American section?

Londonf2012 wiki user

  • It's just speculation. We won't know what the prospects or chances of ANY city winning because the 2018 games are still far away. Everything depends on the winner of the 2016 Games which we won't know until 2009. xero 00:48, 22 August 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xero-7 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Southern California bids for 2018 Winter games

I have a difficult time finding sources on local rumors in Southern Cal. (a very warm climate, but our mountains provide great winter sports activities) about they bid for the 2018 winter olympiad. In case of deletion (and my apologies if it wasn't following the rules), here's the added edit below.

<< Big Bear or Lake Arrowhead located in Southern California have interests in hosting the 2018 Winter games. However, these areas are generally smaller than other host cities and their very southern location (33'40' N Latitude), despite the area's numerous ski resorts and much cooler climate in elevations over 6000 feet (1500 meters) during the winter months. They must construct a ceremonial stadium, an arena for skating competitons and include more facilities for other olympic events. If not, the gold-medal hockey events are held either in the Staples Center in Los Angeles or the Honda Center in Anaheim. [citation needed]>>

If anyone can offer me verifiable news sources about it, I appreciate it and thank you. This is driving me "nuts", because to find truthfulness of the news release. I mean a web site from a winter olympic committee based in Southern Cal. or the IOC itself...or I'm gonna look at that myself. + Mike D 26 23:00, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cities to officially bid

So far, Tromso Norway is the only city that has actually confirmed an official bid for the games, hence I placed that into the new section. xero 06:43, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Also, I tagged the potential bid cities without a reference with a 'citation needed' tag. The cities that have been tagged for a long time I took the liberty of deleting, since it is most likely not factual data. xero 07:19, 23 August 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xero-7 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Citations seriously needed

I took the following cities/countries out of the potential bids section of the article because they've been CN tagged for over a month. If these are indeed factual, they need to have a source.

  • Carinthia, Austria w/ Ljubljana, Slovenia
  • Poland
  • Borjomi, Georgia
  • Jaca, Spain
  • Helsinki, Finland
  • Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina
  • Ukraine
  • Vaduz, Liechtenstein —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xero-7 (talk • contribs) 21:30, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • New Zealand

xero-7 21:28, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted cities that have since been cited.--Cbradshaw 20:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cities Making Bids

Scorpion recently moved two cities that "were making bids" to the "Potential Bids" pointing out that "It's a long way away; a lot can change in the 4 years." But I'm not sure we can arbitrarily just discount the documented claims of these towns, even if they end up changing their tune. Both were sourced --Cbradshaw 18:53, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Turkey

Just a note, Turkey's NOC is indeed a member of the European Olympic Committees rather than the Olympic Council of Asia ([1]). -- Jonel (Speak to me) 15:36, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, that seems reasonable. The site is in Asia, but I will go with concensus.--Cbradshaw (talk) 15:51, 5 May 2008 (UTC)