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[edit] Crime

The sad reality is that Brazil is not prepared to host a World Cup and will not be prepared in 2014. Sure they can upgrade their stadia and infractructure, but violence and crime will still be rampant as it cannot be solved in a mere 7 years. The main brazilian cities - Rio and Sao Paulo - are reknowned for their crime and the murder rate there is consistently ranked among the top 5 in the world. The local gangs will have a field day raping and pillaging tourists. That is how foreign money will come to Brazil during the world cup!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whilecover001 (talk • contribs) 17:30, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


His argument is unfortunate and biased. The assaults happen anywhere in the world, including in the United States, England and so on. You should not rely as much on hype we see on television. I live in São Paulo and I have never been robbed, so be careful to give that kind of comment.




Brazil is full of large soccer stadia, sometimes their capacity is bigger than the whole population of the cities, but they are all 30, 40, 50 years old and in bad state of conservation. Some of these stadia were build in peaceful cities like São José do Rio Preto, Uberlândia, Cariacica, Londrina but such cities weren't even reminded because they are either smaller cities, countryside cities or cities with few political importance. They want the bigger cities as hosts, the cities which are capital cities, but these important cities happen to be the violent cities too. Gargalos 05:01, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mistake???

If FIFA said that the 2014 world cup would be held in South America, than why does this article say that the USA and Australia are candidates

The answer is in the last sentence of of the introduction. Kingjeff 16:12, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Because they are alternatives if South America can't host the world cup

Would this World Cup even take place? With all the possible events that might happen on 2012?

Sorry, but what exactly is going to happen in 2012? NaLaochra 01:30, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
IIRC, Blatter suggested moving it forwards 2 years, why, i dont know, but its most likely not going to happpen. I think it's safe to say it will happpen in 2014. Vaud 02:08, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

why is the article talking about the U.S. or an asian country hosting the 2014 world cup, when the paragraph before it states that FIFA has already given the hosting duties to South America? Vaud 23:25, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

well, since the 2014 World Cup is taking place in South America, i guess i will go ahead and change this article to reflect that, and delete the part about the US, china, etc hosting it, as already said, it is to take place in south america. if that changes in the future, then obviously this article will be changed to reflect that Vaud 20:15, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I am the original poster, and what I meant is what if the so called Mayan Prophecies take place and major things are altered? What would happen with the World Cup?

Well, if the world's gonna supposedly end in 2012, obviously this would not take place. Anywho, unless you can fortell the future, i say this article stays..imho, of course. Vaud 04:56, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree with vaud if it is going to be in South America how can Asia and North America be bidding?

Well, it is still not 100% certain that the World Cup will be held in South America. It has been said that FIFA will most likely have a south american country host it, but it is still not certain. Also, the south american confederation has chosen to let Brazil host the world cup, if in fact it is held in south america. While yes, it wouldnt hurt to discuss other countries/continents hosting the world cup, i personally think this article should be written as if south america will be hosting it, and maybe a section called 'other proposed bids' or something like wise, to talk about the other countries/continents hopeing to be allowed to bid.. Vaud 01:17, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
O.K. so I decided that since from what has been said by FIFA so far, with South America most likely being the host continent, i went ahead and put the South American Bids in on catagory, and for all the other continents, i put them under a 2nd catagory.. Vaud 03:12, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Canada, USA and China are being taken in consideration for hosting the Cup of '14 because Brazil was the only country in South America to bid (in spite of the fact Colombia did a bid for a while though) and a stand-by country is always needed because Brazil was given a dead-line of one year to prove its conditions to host the Cup and there's no other South-American country interested on it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.24.158.38 (talk) 03:47, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Some errors

Australia is not part of the Asian confederation, but part of the confederation of Oceania.

Second, CONCACAF (Confederation of North, Central America and Caribean Association of Football, or something like that) is no longer its name, rather it is simple Confederation of Football.

Fernando Gómez.

Actually, Australia is part of the Asian Confederation, after the 2006 World Cup. As for CONCACAF, considering its official website calls it as such, it should be referenced here as CONCACAF. Vaud 20:01, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

Moved per consensus. --Pkchan 13:13, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Australia planning to bid.

It may be too late but Australia still haven't given up on bidding for the 2014 World Cup. This article seems to suggest that they are planning to bid for either the 2014 or 2018 World Cup (probably both). Western Australia backs World Cup bid - NEWS.com.au

Jabso 11:56, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

It now looks the Australia will only be bidding on the 2018 Cup: http://www.theage.com.au/news/soccer/world-cup-bid-for-2018-gets-political-clout/2006/07/14/1152637870779.html

[edit] Jordan/Iraq Bid

The referenced article is from 2004, since nothing really has been heard about a proposed Jordan/Iraq bid since then, should we include them in this article? Vaud 00:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Canada

Do any of you guys know when the dideline for bids are? and will canada place a bid

Canada? Very unlikely... 惑乱 分からん 11:43, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
To elaborate, I think Canada actually would fall short on FIFAs set criteria for bidding. Canada is neither a soccer nation, nor particularly powerful internationally, I think. (Up for discssion, I guess...) 惑乱 分からん 12:02, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Sorry but the canadians even know the name of the game, they called soccer  :-) .- Jor70 10:12, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I assume you mean do not even know, anyway, that's definitely not a valid argument, (even if it'd matter ;) ) since all of USA, Japan and South Africa primarily refer to the game as soccer or a related word. 惑乱 分からん 11:44, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
relax, just a joke --Jor70 12:04, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Twelve places?

It says "Based on city size and existing stadiums, these are the twelve locations that have the potential for renovation or reconstruction", but there are more than twelve places listed. Fourteen if I counted it correctly. Someone should probably fix this, even though it's not at all critical at this moment. /129.16.24.218 13:56, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Only 5 confirmed at the moment, the rest of the cities need to confirm upgrades in transportation, accomodations, press facilities and stadio security before they can be confirmed. There have been more cities in the draw, but some have withdrawn due to the huge amount of upgrades needed. --Skippern (talk) 21:42, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] No stadiums up the FIFA standards?

Just heard on the news that no stadiums in Brazil are up to FIFA's standards for hosting a game for the world cup finals. Maybe something should be added? :) Chandlertalk 18:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

No need to. In the lst WC, I don't recall a stadium being used "as it was" for World Cup in the last four competitions and in the 2010 competition. All of them had to suffer adjustments from the announcement to the competition itself, therefore none (or very few) were up tp FIFA's standards Garavello 18:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
what you just wrote is an argument FOR including it. Chandlertalk 09:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
No, beacuse that is not mentioned in any WC article. So, why it has to be written here? No other WC host had stadiums ready for WC as the time of being elected. Writing it just in the WC 2014 would seem that this is the first case, when it's not the first case, it's the common rule. Garavello 13:23, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
The BBC Sport report on it has some information on the stadiums needing a revamp. — jacĸrм (talk) 18:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I saw no real info there... Only a tidbit about the Maracanã stadium. The Portuguese wikipedia's page about the event has more info and links for the stadiums (as well as links to english's versions of their articles in most of them). Garavello 19:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Maracanã, Morumbi and Mineirão are ready to receive games only minor press rooms adaptations will be made. The rest will be reformed in the next 7 years, also 3 new stadiums to be build. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.8.209.91 (talk) 08:51, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Maracanã had plans for minor and major upgrades regarding crowd security, press facilities and transports regardless of the outcome of 2014 draw, if I remember correctly. --62.97.244.2 (talk) 21:35, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Disaster

So, has anyone heard about the disaster in the stadium of Fonte Nova, in the city of Salvador, state of Bahia? Part of the structure of the stadium has fallen appart, eight people died and several were injured.

Here follows the new (source: http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/nation_world/20071125_ap_brazilstadiumbleachercollapses8die.html )

SAO PAULO, Brazil - A section of stands at a soccer stadium in northeastern Brazil gave way Sunday as fans cheered at the end of a game, killing eight people, police said.

At least 60,000 were in the stadium for the game at the Fonte Nova stadium in the coastal city of Salvador when the victims fell several stories to the ground after a hole several yards wide opened in the concrete floor of a section of the highest bleachers.

At least nine people fell through and eight of them died, said Maj. Edmilson Tavares of the city's federal police. He said he could not immediately confirm how many people were hurt.

The accident happened as fans of the Bahia club went into a wild celebration, storming the field when their team managed a 0-0 tie with Vila Nova which secured Bahia a place in the nation's second division.

Globo TV reported that fans had been jumping up and down in glee, and that dozens of people were injured.

Many fans did not realize that the bleachers had given way and continued to celebrate by swarming the field after the game.

The stadium was built in 1951, according to the Web site of Salvador's A Tarde newspapers.

A survey of soccer stadiums released last month by Brazil's Sinaeco association of architects and engineers said the Fonte Nova's stands were "in ruins," A Tarde reported.

The newspaper said Fonte Nova was evaulated as part of a study of Brazilian soccer venues because Brazil will host the 2014 World Cup. Salvador would almost certainly get some of the games.

Brazil, which has won a record five World Cups, was awarded the right last month to host 2014 tournament Tuesday by FIFA's executive committee. Latin America's largest country hosted the competition once before, losing to Uruguay in the 1950 final.

The state governor of Bahia state, Jacques Wagner, ordrered the Fonte Nova stadium closed while authorities investigate the cause of the accident. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.24.30.84 (talk) 11:34, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

The stadion of Fonte Nova is extremely old and have been in need of upgrades for a long time, if Salvador get to be one of the host cities, Fonte Nova will get long awaited repairs, though this incident might have given Salvador a little trouble of getting to the top of the list (not familiar with how the process of choosing host cities works). --62.97.244.2 (talk) 21:38, 24 February 2008 (UTC)