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Since when is Arena Football a major sport? Wahkeenah 10:15, 27 June 2006 (UTC)


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- For awhile now. Fifty7 23:41, 27 June 2006 (UTC)


Believe it or not, people in America enjoy leagues other than the NFL, the NBA, and MLB. Despite what your opinion may be, Selig claimed that it was the state's first sports title. Considering the relative success of the Arena Football League and the popular status of the Rattlers franchise in Arizona, the statement was wrong, and therefore, so is the sentence you continue to edit in. Fifty7 23:52, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Arena football is not a major sport. However, in the interest of avoiding a dispute, I have simply deleted this bit of trivia because, if you consider arena football a major sport, then it's false; and even if it's true, who cares? Wahkeenah 01:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Who are you to delete trivia because "nobody cares"? In that case, we should delete half the site because it's about stuff that nobody would really care about. --TopGear 16:50, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

  • So, what wording do you suggest instead? "First major sports championship unless you count Arena Football"??? Is it really worth getting into edit jihads about whether this is Arizona's first major league pro championship or not? Wahkeenah 16:57, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

yes, it is worth it. having lived here all my life, i can say that the two arena football titles simply were not held on par with a major sports championship, or even a major college championship. the 1997 university of arizona wildcats basketball title was arguably the pinnacle of arizona sports until the 2001 world series, with the 1976 and 1993 suns teams also in contention. Quietmind 05:18, 29 October 2006 (UTC)Quietmind

  • Feel free to take up the torch of the potential edit jihad. Wahkeenah 11:40, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] deletion of quotes

I think it's clear that there are too many quotations in the article, so I'm going to start deleting the ones that don't get hits on google. It's a crude method, but I can't think of anything better. --Kangaru99 16:26, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yankee Bias

I suggest that the following text be revised to make it NPOV: (from the Game 7 section)

"Rivera appeared to regain control when he fielded Jay Bell's bunt and threw out pinch-runner David Dellucci at third base, however third baseman Scott Brosius held the ball instead of throwing to first for the double play (which would have made two outs in the inning with a runner at second). Midre Cummings was sent in to pinch-run for Damien Miller. With Cummings at second and Bell at first, the next batter, Tony Womack, drove a double down the right-field line that evened the score. Bell went to third and the Yankees pulled the infield in (only necessary because of Brosius' missed double-play opportunity). After Rivera hit Craig Counsell with a 1-1 pitch, the bases were loaded.

The winning run would be batted in with a gentle tap over the heads of the infield. Luis Gonzalez blooped a soft single over Derek Jeter on an 0-1 pitch that plated Jay Bell with the winning run."

Sounds like a Yankees fan wrote that section. Sounds like that Yankees fan wants to convince readers that Scott Brosius lost the game for his team, instead of Mariano Rivera the pitcher who gave up the winning runs. Sounds like that Yankees fan doesn't accept that a "bloop" hit beat their favorite team. Calling it a "gentle tap" seems beyond foolish. Someone please NPOV the bias out of this entry. 97.84.203.211 01:53, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Was this an upset?

Hey you know, this Diamondback defeat against the Yankees in the 2001 World Series could be considered as an upset. I mean, the mighty Yankees were a veteran team with all-star players like Derek Jeter, Jorge Posada, Paul O'Neill, Scott Brosius, Mariano Rivera, Andy Pettitte, Roger Clemens, and many more. Also, they dominated baseball the previous five years, having won 4 out of 5 world championships in 1996, 1998, 1999, and 2000. Meanwhile, the Diamondbacks were an upstart team also filled with all-stars like Luis Gonzalez, Jay Bell, Miguel Batista, Randy Johnson, Curt Schilling, Craig Counsell, and many more. The Diamondback franchise started in 1998, just three years earlier. The Yankee franchise started in 1903, nearly a century earlier. So I think the Yankees had a slight advantage over the D'Backs in terms of franchise history. In addition, the Yankees had a better regular season record (95-65) than the Diamondbacks (92-70). Maybe some people thought that the Diamondbacks, a young inexperienced team, had no chance against the Yankees, a veteran dynasty. I think the Yankees were considered the favorite in this series. Do you? Bigbrainkt (talk) 06:12, 12 February 2008 (UTC)