Talk:2-8-2

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To-do list	Pending tasks for 2-8-2:	(purge cache –  edit this list)
	Add more historical information - which was the first Mikado? what drove the development of this type? Add a photo of a Mikado Add notes on prominent preserved Mikados Add details on 2-8-2 use outside America
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[edit] Shall we have a different photo for the main/top image?

Hi folks,

I was wondering if there might be a better photo we can use in place of the PRR #520 2-8-2 at the head of this article. The only reason I suggest this is that it's a little hard for the uninitiated to make out the wheel arrangement from this photo, given it's more head-on than side-on.

Could I suggest the photo of the USATC S118, for example, where the wheel rims are painted white and are very easy to make out? Given this loco was exported to a number of countries, it's a truly representative example of the type. (Or if I was to be really parorchial Victorian, I could suggest the picture of the Victorian Railways X class?)

The PRR photo could then be shifted to the "United States" section, which currently has no photo.

Thanks,

Zzrbiker 01:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I've moved the PRR image down to the US section and moved the black and white X class image up to the lead. I think the black and white image better conveys the meaning of a 2-8-2 than the color image because the color highlights are a little distracting. Slambo (Speak) 11:10, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unpowered trailing axle

Thanks to Slambo for reorganising the images. However, it just occured to me as I read the first paragraph of the article and the definition of a 2-8-2 as having "one unpowered trailing axle" that the X class locomotive photograph shows a steam pipe heading to the booster engine in the delta trailing truck. Note that the X was certainly not the only Mikado to have a booster engine so fitted.

Shall we remove the references to "unpowered" axles, given that it's not entirely correct? Yes the booster is typically only in use at low speeds (the axle would be unpowered at greater than 20-30km/h when the booster is cut out) but it's not strictly an "unpowered axle".

Zzrbiker 00:55, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plagarism problem?

Unfortunately a fair amount of this text seems pretty familiar. The history and American sections seem especially affected. I am not 100% sure where I read it before, but my first suspicion is the Mikado section in Drury, George H., Guide to North American Steam Locomotives (1993). Alas, at the moment mine is not handy to check. Another possible source might have been the Mikado page on steamlocomotive.com. Anyone want to check it out and give me a second opinion? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by N'Awlins Contrarian (talk • contribs) 05:19, 1 February 2008 (UTC)