Talk:1984–1985 famine in Ethiopia

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heyya every1 love u all —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.67.44.159 (talk) 16:14, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Contents 1 Suggestion 2 CBC First to Report 3 statistics in article 4 Map 5 Quote by Alex de Waal

[edit] Suggestion

It should probably be noted in the article that this famine occurred within the context of the regime's collectivization of agriculture policies. It wasn't just a natural drought anymore than the failures in North Korea, China Great Leap Forward, and the USSR Ukraine were. This is something that the international media consistently failed to note. Robert Kaplan's "Surrender or Starve" covers it pretty well. And it was these policies, among other things, that led to the revolts in Tigre and Eritrea which this article somewhat ironically credits for the famine.

[edit] CBC First to Report

The article says, "BBC news reports brought the famine to public attention." However, CBC's Brian Stewart is accreditted as being the first Western reporter to document the famine. 64.180.219.78 21:58, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] statistics in article

are the statistics in this article from the time of the famine or are they from modern times?

[edit] Map

Hmm..I was under the impression that it affected Eritrea as much as it did Tigray. Perhaps Ethiopia as it was in 1984-5 should be shown and references to the famine in Eritrea be included? — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 20:49, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

What Cuased This Famine? Iam sorry i just dont get it what is the actual cuase of the famine? Does anyone have a simple answer that i can use for my school work dont make it too short it has to be a page long.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nojo200 (talk • contribs) 16:00, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

It sounds like you're asking someone else to do your homework for you. Did you read the Background section? -- Gyrofrog (talk) 16:23, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quote by Alex de Waal

The quote at the end of the intro, saying that famine relief prolonged the war, and with it, human suffering, is not supported by anything in the article, and seems out of context. I suggest removing the quote or adding context to explain or support its thesis. Shalom (Hello • Peace) 03:01, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

It seems out of context because of the assumption that the famine relief effort had a beneficial effect, which is not necessarily the case. That quotation, which I added, is one of the few things supported by a citation in this article and should definitely not be removed. One can make a better argument that everything not in line with cited content, which is most of the article, should be removed, but I'll try to add some context from de Waal's book. - BanyanTree 08:26, 26 December 2007 (UTC)