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[edit] Civil Rights

Were civil rights issues really 'suppressed'? What about brown vs. board of education, etc?

i think that this page should show more about the distance between the young and the old and their different expectations and so on. i think this is a good idea because i have noone i know alive who was in the fifties so i want to know what it was like to be a teenager back then.- nick

[edit] Graffiti

"Along with the appearance of the sentence Kilroy was here across the United States, graffiti as an art form develops, especially among urban African Americans; graffiti eventually becomes one of the four elements of hip hop culture"

This needs a citation. It isn't clear that 'Kilroy' has any connection to later graffiti culture, or what that connection might be. Further, the 'Kilroy' had its origin in the 1940s, so if there is a connection to later graffiti culture then why date that connection to the 1950s?

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Drowland3550 (talk • contribs) 13:18, 7 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Suez Crisis

The Suez Crisis was a war fought on Egyptian territory in 1956. The conflict pitted Egypt against an alliance between the United Kingdom, France and Israel. The United States also played a crucial role, albeit not a military one.

I see this kind of thing too much in Wikipedia. The author expects everyone to read their minds instead of expounding upon their point. If the US played a crucial role, tell us what it was instead of telling us what it wasn't! This type of thing is infuriating.

[edit] United States in the 1950s

It's my opinion that the 1950s entry should summarize major events, and contain links to entries for specific countries as and when they are written. Accordingly I've moved the United States in the 1950s section to its own entry and placed a link to this in a new "See also" section. Many countries had a very different experience of the 1950s from the one that pertained in the USA, but there are many US events that are generally regarded as having global significance because of the growth of a largely US-led popular culture and the growing power of the USA in foreign policy. I'm sure there will be some duplication between entries and this is okay in my opinion. It's an encyclopedia and articles should try to be reasonably self-contained.--Minority Report 23:59, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I like this approach a lot better. The early articles (1950s) and (1950's), which were merged to form the basis of the old 1950's article, were admittedly written from a North American perspective (at least one of them, if not both, explicitly said so) because that was the only perspective that their early contriubutors and editors felt competent to give. As Wikipedia becomes more truly international and less U.S.-centric, this sort of thing will be necessitated more and more, which is a good thing.

[edit] Removed "Sydney ice is a dirty whore."

Removed "Sydney ice is a dirty whore." from "Decolonization: Algeria, Vietnam, and elsewhere.Sydney ice is a dirty whore." in war peace and politics. seams to be vandulism

[edit] Removed title "stupid stuff'

Someone had replaced the first title with 'Stupid stuff'. I got rid of that for you. Yeah.

-Guest

[edit] Removed "factually" clause"

I removed this bit from the intro:

although factually from 1951 through 1960.

Yes, yes, the Gregorian calendar starts in Year One, so all decades actually run from 10n+1 to 10n+10, not from 10n to 10n+9. However, I think this level of pedantry is extremely rare when applied to decades. Centuries perhaps; millenia sure (I myself remembering arguing that the millenium began in 2001) but not decades. --Saforrest 17:55, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:COTW votes

[edit] 1950s (6 votes, stays until August 5)

Nominated July 16, 2006; needs at least 9 votes by August 5, 2006
Support
  1. Davodd 05:12, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  2. Green caterpillar 14:04, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  3. YankeeDoodle14 23:08, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
  4. Mirage5000 09:12, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
  5. Avala 15:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
  6. C. M. Harris 22:38, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Comments
  • Two paragraphs and a list. Should be fun and easy to turn into a quality article. Davodd 05:12, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Expansion

Please expand the section "National Issues", or delete the sections that are titled without any content. For example, In Japan, In the United States, etc. David P. A. Hunter, esq. III Let us to it, Pell-Mell 04:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Action has been taken on the above request and it may be fulfilled now. Please edit the section for accuracy and neutral POV. More material may need to be added. Neutralaccounting 00:43, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Useless first sentence

"The 1950s was the decade spanning from the 1st of January, 1950 to the 31st of December, 1959."

Anyone with a shred of common sense can figure that bit out. Is this necessary? Zyr shnikashnu 14:09, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] civil rights

urm...could someone expand the civil rights section, its like 3 lines long. thanks, 69.171.51.14 01:52, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lack of Introduction?

This article does not have an introduction. Someone who is familiar with this subject should create one. YaanchSpeak! 01:07, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Architecture

Umm, yeah just wondering why theres nothing under architecture & if there ever was. --Samhed (talk) 09:46, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

No idea...I took it out since there was nothing under it, and added Art Movements. Marsattack (talk) 16:50, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of People (entertainers and world leaders)

If there is actually a necessity for such a list, wouldn't it be better to put it on a separate list page, perhaps, instead of making the main page so crowded with lists? Marsattack (talk) 16:46, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Western point of view

I can imagine this article hard to do, hard to know what to omit, and what to enter. Also the scope of the title is quite huge.(Perhaps the scope should be limited in the title.) This is blatently American centered: "The war continued until a cease-fire was agreed to by both sides on July 27, 1953. The war left 33,742 American soldiers dead and 92,134 wounded." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.169.240.67 (talk) 13:25, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I was just going to make a comment of the same thought. I don't know what it is about making everything 'American-centered', a cultural bias will obviously occur but this is a world encyclopaedia... apparently the American education system is similarly focused. Very inward style; they know their country inside-out and the outside world is a little unclear. No don't put my IP up thanks.

Wow, pretty much no mention of Australia whatsoever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.221.193.240 (talk) 07:32, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I've tagged the article to address these concerns. Realistically, it's impossible to include the existing level of detail and to cover the entire world! I think the best we can hope for is an extremely broad coverage in very shallow detail. I'd propose the following:

  • The culture section is 99% about the USA, and would be better split off into a new article called something like 1950s USA culture.
  • Rewrite the current article to talk only about global events and trends in major subjects of human activity including arts, science and technology, society and politics. Major environmental and geographical events with global repercussions could also possibly be mentioned
  • Discussion of topics and events contained within individual countries should be avoided. They can go in country specific articles.

Any opinions/suggestions? Papa November (talk) 19:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)