Talk:1930 FIFA World Cup squads

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[edit] Source

Can anybody tell me what's the source of this list? 'cause there are many inaccurate but heavily visited sites over there... just to avoid them. --necronudist 13:22, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alexandru Borbely...

...or Alexandru Borbil? --necronudist 09:03, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

He was maybe Hungarian from Romania, that's why we have several versions of his name. - Darwinek 11:16, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, it's possible...but should we write Borbil (it seems the Romanian version)? --necronudist 12:30, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I really don't know :). Complicated issue. - Darwinek 12:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Chile, Bolivia, Peru: controversies

An anonymous user has edited Chilean, Bolivian and Peruan teams providing some interesting links. However there are plenty of sites (e.g. playerhistory.com) who says the contrary, but they can be wrong.

[edit] Chile

Here is shown clearly that Espinoza was a GK, Riveros a MF, Coddou and Munoz FWs. Also: Coddou is spelled Coddeau, like in this extract of Historia Total del Futbol Chileno. FIFA site spell him Coddou (but we know this site is full of errors) and don't even mention who's the second GK [1] [2] [3]

Carlos Vidal's entry says Italiano Schwager and from what I have read in Chilean soccer history there is no team with that name. The closest resemblance is Audax Italiano and Lota Schwager. Lota, however came about in 1966 from the merger of Minas Lota and Federico Schwager. They were lower division teams and I have found nothing regarding them in the 1930's era. Libro0 (talk) 20:15, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bolivia

Here is not clearly stated that Murillo is a GK, we can easily guess it 'cause is name comes just after Bermudez, who was the first GK. FIFA site OBVIOUSLY omit the question [4] [5]

In Bolivia's official records for international matches, Luis Reyes Penaranda is not present in the lineup for the 1930 WC games. The lineup cards for international games going back to 1926 are listed in 'La epopeya del fútbol Boliviano', 1896-1994 by Carlos D. Mesa Gisbert. He may have been an alternate in contention for a spot since he was on the 1929 Universitario champion team. Libro0 (talk) 20:27, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

He isn't present in the lineups (= he never played in the tournament) or he wasn't called up (= he did not take part at the tournament)? --necronudist (talk) 08:55, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

His name wasn't even listed under players that were capped by the national team. So, according to the above mentioned book, he was not at the tournament. Libro0 (talk) 10:42, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Interesting... so he must be deleted. But not always a call up is considered as a cap. --necronudist (talk) 11:24, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Peru

Here are clearly stated the teams where some players came from.

Let me know what you think about all of this. I'll keep the original version until the controversies aren't solved. --necronudist 10:01, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

See 1950 Squads discussion. Libro0 20:18, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USA

I believe Bill O'Brian should be O'Brien and his full name is William Shamus. Born in Neilston, Scotland came to US in 1919. He played for the NY Giants, and NY Nationals. Also M. Slavin should be John Slavin. He was born in Camoustie, Scotland and also played for the Giants and Nationals. Libro0 20:11, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Great job! What's the source? --necronudist 20:39, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Colin Jose has a book about the American Soccer League (ASL) from 1921-1931. Other sources include Raith Rovers and Hearts sites since John Slavin played for them prior to joining the NY Nationals. Libro0 01:44, 11 August 2007 (UTC)