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Contents 1 Decade 2 Medal count 3 The Term Intercalated 4 Main Image 5 Ireland 6 Merge with Intercalated Games?

[edit] Decade

Paris, 1900 

During the World exposition; games lasted from may 14 until october 28.

St. Louis, 1904 

During the World's Fair; games lasted from july 1 until november 23.

Athens 1906 

No longer official, making dates a bit less accessible; games possibly lasted from april 22 until may 2.

London, 1908 

During the Franco-British Exhibition; games lasted from april 27 until oktober 31.

If the description on the page is insufficient, we could include more of this to clarify.

Aliter 16:38, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Riiight, I assumed the decade in question was 1896-1906. I'd never heard of the Franco-British Exhibition (1908). I've referenced it on the 1908 Summer Olympics page and clarified this (1906) page accordingly. Joestynes

Worded a bit milder, and a pity we lose the decade as a periode, but much clearer, yes. Thanks. Aliter 19:40, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] Medal count

As a result from the attitude of the IOC, medal information is more scarce for the 1906 than for other games. I don't have access to the individual results, so I took results I encountered more than once. However, other totals also given. Also, I didn't want to take a position in the Turko-Greek conflict, hence, as I mentioned, I left two results out. This is not the ultimate word on the subject. However, to keep thing clear it would be wise to motivate here any changes you make to the count. After all, few people will be willing to accept that medals just fall from the sky or are swallowed by the earth. Aliter 01:35, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Please elaborate on this. Did all the Greek regions participate as individual teams? matturn 10:27, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I added pages for each sport to present individual winners (ecept football, it was already there). I added Smyrna and Thessaloniki medals to Turkey because both cities were in Ottoman hands at the time, and the Greek governement was still not trying to get it back (They got back Thessaloniki only in 1912). As Ottoman citizen, they went to the game as their own, reprensenting cities and not ethnicity (in this way we couldn't put them in the Greek count). I also added South Africa, but I'll verify the origin of Vincent Dunker (bronze medalist in 110 m Hurdles). Finally, must we separate Great Britain and Ireland?Souris2005 14:52, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

There were actual national teams starting at 1906. Our article should reflect that and use the teams, just as we use the modern national teams. Greece was a single team, though I have seen sources that divide Greek results by city. I'm not entirely sure, but I believe that competitors from Smyrna and Thessaloniki competed on a team known as "Turkish Empire" which is typically shortened to "Turkey", though that's probably a worse misnomer than the use of "Great Britain" (short for Olympics-official "Great Britain and Northern Ireland", which is at least a proper if uncommon way to shorten the official name) to refer to the United Kingdom. On the UK, "Great Britain and Ireland" is the team for which British/Irish athletes competed; they should be combined.

Also, I checked on de: for the 110 metre hurdles bronze medallist, there listed as Vincent Duncker. Apparently (from what I can decipher of German--not the most reliable translation), he was born in South Africa to German parents, never became a German national, but lived in Germany from 1904 to 1908 (i.e., the relevant period). I'm pretty sure South Africa wasn't one of the 20 teams--the current medal table looks right except for the omission of Egypt, who didn't win any medals--my guess is that Duncker competed on the German team. Nationality doesn't always determine which country/team an athlete represents (true now, even; see Mia Audina). -- Jonel | Speak 07:51, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Term Intercalated

The word "intercalated" is neither linked nor defined in this article. Also, the definition wiki provides is absolutely inadequate to explain what it means in this context.

I've linked to Intercalated Games, which does a bit better job of explaining it. — Jonel | Speak 02:50, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Main Image

Is there any type of main image anyone can get for this to make this look similar to the other pages of the Olympic Games?

A program cover, official logo, etc.?

[edit] Ireland

The 1906 games also saw the first separate Irish team compete in the Olympics. The squad of three men travelled at their own expense from ireland to Athens to represent Ireland, but at the last minute were incorporated into the British team. When Peter O'Connor won silver in the long jump, he quickly ran an Irish flag up the flagpole during the medal ceremony. The Irish tricolour had yet to be designed at the time, so the old green 'Éireann go Brágh' flag was used. Permission to add this to the main page, and rectify the medal count accordingly? eiscir 18:27, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge with Intercalated Games?

There is a tag on the article saying "It has been suggested that this article or section be merged with Intercalated Games. (Discuss)" but I cannot see any such suggestion or discussion anywhere. Am I in the wrong place?

• For the record, I vote No. Scolaire 23:27, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I am keeping the articles separate, but moving some sections (such as what happened in the 1910 and 1914 Games) over to the main (Intercalated) article. --Leviel 10:26, 4 September 2007 (UTC)