Talk:1900 (film)

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Contents 1 1900 is not Legend of 1900 2 What about the Nine Million Dollar Budget? 3 What is the original running time? 4 Pedophile theme? 5 Spoilers in the introduction 6 Italian motto 7 Animal Cruelty 8 Fair use rationale for Image:Novecento.jpg

[edit] 1900 is not Legend of 1900

This movie, "1900" was shot in Italian, and is not the same movie as Legend of 1900, which was shot in English. About a year ago I got them confused and bought one for the other by mistake. Anyway, the Legend of 1900 deals with a young man who grows up on board an oceanliner playing a piano. But this one deals with two people in Italy, both born in the year 1900, one into the upperclass and the other into the lowerclass. These are two entirely different films. Although the names are similar, confusion should be guarded against.

This movie (1900 aka Novecento) was not shot in italian only. Some part are in italian, but the major part of this film is in english. DeNiro, Sterling Hayden and other didn't speak italian. After, it has been dubbed, completely in english for US audience and completely in italian for italians. Elias2 14:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What about the Nine Million Dollar Budget?

The main article suggests an equivalent budget of nine million dollars, in Italian lire. Who were the producers of this film? Was there any funding at all by the Italian government to get this off the ground, or if it went overbudget, hem it in and wrap it up?

[edit] What is the original running time?

There appears to be significant differences in the reported running times. Under the film information, it is listed as 318 minutes, but under the trivia section, it is listed as 311.

[edit] Pedophile theme?

Can someone explain where pedophilia is depicted in this movie? Haiduc 11:06, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

In the first part, two young boys are examining each other's penises (one of them is erect). And later in the movie, a boy is raped (and killed) by a fascist. Code-Binaire 22:07, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

The first example is not pedophilia: the boys are within five years of each other, and there is no contact or (overt) attraction between them—this sort of thing is common practice among young boys. The second might not be considered pedophilia, as the “fascist” was not necessarily attracted to children, but possibly domination (manifested in this case upon a child). It is, however, undeniably child abuse (and serves as justification for the “child abuse” label; though it would probably be better as a category and not as a “See also” link).—Kbolino 20:26, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

I would agree with the above statementpedophilia may be a stretch. The character (Attila) whom raped/killed the boy was not targeting the boy to have sex with him but it was rather domination/retaliation issue. Films like The Boys Of St.Vincent and Voor een verloren soldaat (For a Lost Soldier) are prime examples of pedophilia subject matter as the character(s) are grooming/targeting children for sexual gratification towards their lust. witch is not the case in this film. Perhaps the child abuse would be a better label then the "Pedophilia and child sexual abuse" tag. Just my thoughts

You guys are right - there is no pedophilia but definiety is child sexual abuse. The article covers either or both. Tony 17:46, 8 July 2007 (UTC)Tony

[edit] Spoilers in the introduction

I think the introduction is too precise in its summary. The fact that the friends are separated by the fascist/communist conflict becomes apparent very late in the film (part II).

Now I've moved that section down to "plot summary", but the page is still in need of serious editing.

[edit] Italian motto

Does someone know the Italian motto on Berlinghieri's farm, it says something like "E laralto che traccia, ma e spada che defende", I didn't get it completely... What does it mean in English? 惑乱 分からん 00:22, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

"È l'aratro che traccia il solco ma è la spada che lo difende" Under Mussolini, the Fascists were fond of such slogans as "a plough makes a furrow but a sword defends it."

Look to: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Asso,_scritta_fascista.JPG

[edit] Animal Cruelty

Someone should address the fact that this movie, by contemporary standards, is in some segments as low as animal snuff filming for the purpose of cruelty and savagery alone. Numerous pigs and birds were slaughtered, on film, in this movie, in very cruel manners which are by contemporary and even current standards and laws at the time of filming illegal under the prevention of cruelty to animals acts. 211.30.71.59 01:49, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Novecento.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 15:57, 8 March 2008 (UTC)