User talk:160.39.193.101

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[edit] Judith Dean

your edit in Judith Dean was against the Wikipedia NPOV policy. Optim 19:40, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)

That, I'm afraid, is a matter of opinion. You know what they say about opinions, don't you? They're like assholes. Everyone has one.
Your edit was the addition of "She boasts a ratlike appearance and demeanor." which is POV and unverifiable. If you have a photo of her being like a rat it would be better, although we may remove it because probably it will be a fake photo. If you write "Mr. NoOne says that she boasts a ratlike appearance..." it will be better but it may removed again because either it will be read as libel or Mr. NoOne will be unknown or unimportant. In any case you cannot prove that she has a ratlike appearance, and if you do so it will be primary research, which is also prohibited in Wikipedia :) Regarding your question "I don't know where else to reply?" the answer is simple: Either send me email, or (if you prefer not to disclose your email address) Reply on User talk:160.39.193.101 (your talk page) and leave a notice on my talk page telling me to read your talk page. No need to reply to this. Optim 07:14, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Neil Himanshu

Your article at Neil Himanshu Vaishnav appears to be an unfunny spoof article. Please stop creating junk content, or you will be blocked from editing. -- The Anome 10:27, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Unfunny spoof article, indeed. Please stop being an anal-retentive jerk with an (apparently) inflated sense of self-important superiority, or you will be blocked from my conscious thought processes. Thank you. -- 160.39.193.101 13:25, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Name-calling

Please be more considerate to other users. Calling people "stupid" is uncalled for and unacceptable. Maximus Rex 01:37, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)


[edit] Text Markup

Please use text markup, not Unicode. RickK 05:13, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)

(For my response please see RickK's talk page.)

[edit] HTML entities

Hi. HTML entities are not showing well in some browsers. Do not use them. Use this: ' and this: " Optim 05:23, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Optim, thanks for the explanation. Is there no alternative? Straight quotes are ugly and unprofessional. Then again, (warning, NPOV ahead) I suppose the same could be said of Wikipedia. But there must be a way of making quotes look good. What's the procedure for accented characters and such?
Hi. Check the Wikipedia:Manual of Style for accented characters. In general we use whatever is easier for reading and editing. This means, prefer to use ' " - etc instead of HTML entities. Optim 05:37, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
And Wikipedia:Style and How-to Directory - Optim 05:39, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Very cool, thanks for the links. I’m glad to see there is a policy on such things—although I’m disappointed it falls on the side of ugly rather than elegant. For some definitions of “elegant” :-)
Come to think of it, you know, what's the problem with Unicode? Isn't Unicode supported in all major operating systems and browsers by now? It would seem to make the entire thing much easier, as we wouldn't have to deal with entities and other lame workarounds necessitated by the default text encoding specified waaay back in HTML 1.0. Why is Unicode not a good compromise?
Also, Optim, have you seen the Economist style guide? Regardless of how you feel about the magazine, Wikipedia's espoused ideal of style seems to adhere almost exactly to the Economist's. There's also some good points in there about universalizing English (i.e. avoiding Americanisms and Britishisms). Plus, how can you not enjoy the style guide's cheeky style? It's actually a pleasure to read, unlike the deathly boring Wikipedia guide.
In fact, I'd link to the Economist style guide from the Wikipedia:Style and How-to Directory, but I have a feeling it'd get reverted right away. No?
-- 160.39.193.101 06:07, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I am not a futurologist or mind-reader, so I don't know whether someone would revert you for adding an external link to the Wikipedia style page. Regarding Unicode, it's really great but we should think of ease of editing and support for people who use old systems. Even with HTML entities there are many problems. In some discussion elsewhere, Wikipedians where arguing over whether we should use one space or two spaces in certain situations. A user said that in professional typography they use a half-space and gave us the HTML entity which produces a half-space. However, on my system (Mozilla 1.6, Windows XP international with all fonts installed) instead of a half space I was seeing two spaces! So... Be careful with everything which does not exist on your standard 105-key English keyboard! Optim 06:33, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
My PowerBook only has 78 keys. -- 160.39.193.218 08:46, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Non-text characters

Dude, if you try to use non-text characters, they're very difficult to edit. RickK 05:25, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I responded: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:160.39.193.101 Sorry, but I prefer to remain anoymous.
Anonymity is no problem for me. However, consider hacing a username because of the extra software features (watchlist etc) avaibale to logged-in users. Your IP is not shown when you log in, so actually you have more anonymity. Optim 05:37, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I agree with Optim - if you want anonymity, you don't really want your IP displayed. Usernames are quite anonymous, whereas your IP is not: I ran it through a quick search and now know where you are (at least to the resolution of what college you're at.) I won't say, since it matters to you, but anyone could do the same quite easilly. Isomorphic 07:18, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Getting an account

In the future, the software may convert the quotes automatically. Editors should not bother with too much typesetting, especially if it makes editting more difficult. Also, I would suggest getting an account which involves only picking a username (which could just be 160.39 or whatever) and a password. This is actually more anonymous as it doesn't let ordinary users to a whois on your IP. But you are free to do as you please. Just don't do any wholesale copy and paste type moves of articles. Dori | Talk 05:38, Feb 23, 2004 (UTC)


[edit] Vandalism

You will want to cut out the nonsense, since it's tantamount to vandalism, which leads you to getting blocked from editing. Thanks Dysprosia 10:54, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)