Talk:14th Street–Eighth Avenue (New York City Subway)

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[edit] Split

The split template has been up a couple months. Anyone think it's a good idea, or is it time to take it down? Jim.henderson 22:41, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I think it's a good idea. --NE2 04:14, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
No, do not split the article. It was part of a past consensus last year to merge, and I don't know who marked it for splitting, but if we want the article to be split or have any other opinions, take it to WP:NYCPT for discussion. --–Imdanumber1 (talk contribs  email) 17:48, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't think there ever was any consensus. --NE2 19:49, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Check the WP:NYCPT archives. --–Imdanumber1 (talk contribs  email) 03:00, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Oof, haven't been on because I biked to Coney Island, caught dehydration in the humidity, quit the gang, pedalled to the Bay Ridge trench, folded my bike and took the N home. All right, this controversy was before my time, but now it reappears. Nobody has presented an argument either way, so here's my initial argument for the united article.

The united article is not too big. Many passengers use the same stairways regardless of whether they are using the L or the other servics. Readers who want to know about the station will generally want to know all about it, not just the IND or BMT parts. It's a transfer station, and most transfer stations have one article about all the lines and platforms. Any arguments the other way? Jim.henderson 00:58, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I oppose the split. The short reply is, being a unifed subway system, although they have different names, the separate platforms with a free connection are considered to be one station. The long reply involves an evaluation of all transfer stations to determine which ones are logically consolidated (transfer was constructed to have a point of entry that is easily accessible to all lines, or elevated-underground) versus which ones are connected only for system convenience (long passageways, or MetroCard transfers). I have a feeling the name of the article is the problem: the station is usually not referenced to as "8th Avenue-14th Street" but its two parts in context to the lines it serves. But contentwise, discussion of the two platforms together as one station makes sense here. Also, this transfer is not as complicated as others, and the name of the article is not ambiguous (although it does not and should not signify an "official" station name). Tinlinkin 01:38, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
That said, the split tag should be removed, which I'll do. --–Imdanumber1 (talk contribs  email) 01:59, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
This is a post-hoc comment, but I agree with the removal of the split tag. Marc Shepherd 19:24, 18 June 2007 (UTC)