Talk:10th of August (French Revolution)

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10th of August (French Revolution) was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. Reviewed version: August 10, 2006

Right now As of Jul 7, 2004, but it's being addressed - Jmabel 18:04, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC), the material in this article is pretty redundant to part of The Legislative Assembly and the fall of the French monarchy. I've refactored it out to here for two reasons:

1. The bulk of links into that article were links to the section on the 10th of August. There were quite a few of them. I've converted them into links to this article.
2. I'd like eventually to expand the material on the events of roughly August 9 - August 11, 1792, and it would get lopsided in the other article. In particular, I'm trying to get more about the takeover of the Paris Commune, about just who came into power with that, and about the actual logistics of the insurrection. This article will be the place to do that. However, I will be a bit busy the next few weeks -- I'm about to start about a 7-week tech project -- so I may be slow in following through this intention, maybe as late as September 2004.

-- Jmabel 04:48, Jul 7, 2004 (UTC)

This work is now in progress. There is now considerable material in this article beyond that in The Legislative Assembly and the fall of the French monarchy, and I'm still expanding it. -- Jmabel 22:00, Jul 18, 2004 (UTC)

I have taken from Mignet the phrase "sound the tocsin, beat the générale and attack the château." However. I am not sure I fully understand the sense of the last part: does it mean that they would attack the Hotel de Ville or the Tuileries? -- Jmabel 22:00, Jul 18, 2004 (UTC)

Reading on in Mignet he clearly means the Tuileries. I will edit accordingly. Jmabel 22:03, Jul 18, 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 Insurgent 2 Monarchy 3 Failed "good article" nomination 4 WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

[edit] Insurgent

I am curious why use the term "insurgent"? Wouldn't it better to use the term revolutionary or whatever they were called at the time, as closely as possible translated from French? The term insurgent seems to have recent and incorrent connotations. (anon 10 Aug 2005)

• Actually, unless I'm mistaken, "insurgent" was Mignet's term, writing in French in the 19th century. What recent and "incorrent" (incorrect? incoherent?) connotations are you referring to? It's a very old word. See, for example [1] (and search for "insurgent" on that page). -- Jmabel | Talk 06:21, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Monarchy

"This proved to be the effective end of the French Monarchy (until it was restored in 1814). " Napoleon named himself emperor of the France in 1804. Could that be counted as a monarchy? Aranherunar 10:52, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Failed "good article" nomination

This article failed good article nomination. This is how the article, as of June 13, 2008, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: Not bad here, mostly culled from other sources I assume.

2. Factually accurate?: Seems accurate. The main suggestion here is that I would convert those inline internet citations into footnotes, so the actual sources can be seen.

3. Broad in coverage?: Good here.

4. Neutral point of view?: Good here.

5. Article stability? Good here.

6. Images?: Absoblutely none. See if some can be dredged up. Maybe some old artifacts or paintings already in the public domain.

When these issues are addressed, the article can be resubmitted for consideration. Thanks for your work so far. --Esprit15d 12:50, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Among the images we should really have are any of several more or less contemporary paintings of the insurrection in general, plus Johan Zoffany's two counter-revolutionary propaganda paintings from 1794, Plundering the King's Cellar at Paris, August 10, 1792, and Celebrating over the Bodies of the Swiss Soldiers. Does anyone have these in a book from which we can scan them? - Jmabel | Talk 05:23, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

Article reassessed and graded as start class. Referencing and appropriate inline citation guidelines not met. --dashiellx (talk) 17:01, 25 April 2008 (UTC)