Talk:Švitrigaila

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"<was the last champion of Ruthenian Orthodox>"

The writing that svitrigaila was a champion is false. And such sayings do not represent his role in Grand Duchy. And these words should be avoided in encyclopedia if not talking about true champ. He was a Grand Duke and this should be noted in headline not some sort of hearsay.

Request renaming the headline M.K 12:56, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Be bold! Renata 19:47, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Renata, please stop spawning pointless revert wars. It wastes everybody's time. Please find something more useful to do. The coverage of Lithuanian medieval history in WP is a joke, so you are welcome to expand it. --Ghirla ^-трёп- 05:23, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it is. And not only medieval history. As it's a joke that Švitrigaila was a champion of something. That's as POV as it gets. You might be right about the Ruthenian Orthodox majority (even though I am not so sure what you mean), but the champion part is... uhm... Renata 05:34, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I repeat: I wish you had written a couple of articles on Grand Dukes of Lithuania yourselves before attacking those written by others. Such an attitude as above scared me from editing Lithuania-related subjects for good. Good bye, Ghirla ^-трёп- 05:51, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Very "constructive" talk from Ghirlandajo, very similar like this [1]. And I repeat encyclopedia (and the headline mostly) should be avoided such words as champ. and so on, headline is to people came and see simple and main info on person; lets say little girl came here and reads "was the last champion of Ruthenian Orthodox" and latter writes in her school work: Svitrigaila, as champion, ruled Grand Duchy, not long . And this is only one problem if we will talk about champs. If somebody wrote and article with mistakes and you stated your problem clearly on talk and you do not received any counterview.....

"I wish you had written a couple of articles on Grand Dukes of Lithuania yourselves before attacking those written by others." What do you mean? What such as '"superior" as your self can’t make a mistakes and false ideas? You can’t recognizes basics of linguistics side (talking bout other his edits), If you wrote this article you should at least had to familiarize with his seals and edicts and this way such camps. never accrue.

Now about more common problem. The Orthodox in headline could be (Some Lithuanian noblemen did not support him as Grand Duke , some part supported; after vacuum left by Vytautas Poland tried to interfere in Lithuania maters and they supported other candidate, Svitrigaila seeing that he have no major support from Lith. went to Ruth., but they demanded and made conditions for help.) , mine goal was a champ. And that was written about him was a mockery. And I do not let that someone make mockery from Grand Dukes of Lithuania. M.K 07:46, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

It's funny to see name Švitrigaila - there was no š in Lithuanian language prior reforms of 20th century... it's ahistorical and not scientific use modern names for historical persons. By the way Switrigajlo ideed was popular between Ruthenians (but not Russians as currently is written) 82.135.217.131 (talk) 10:18, 1 May 2008 (UTC)