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[edit] Paeonian?
Can somebody explain where did the information about the Paeonian origin come from? Because all I ever knew or could find is that first mention of a settlement here is during the 1st century AD as a Roman fortification, and believe me, I am an expert on this town :) Capricornis 06:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- No source for this so feel free to put a 'fact' tag or even remove the text. --Laveol T 11:42, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- I couldn't find anything about Paeonian capital, but definitely some Paeonian stuff :) Capricornis 23:43, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- Are you sure about the Stipeon article though - it could surely put the info in this one as well. I doubt it could expand to a whole article. --Laveol T 12:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- You might be right there, I found next to nothing about it, but that doesn't mean somebody better than me in research will not find something in the future :) Capricornis 17:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ansiklopedia Brittanica 1911 and Turks in Shtip (İştip)
The first Turkish immigration from Asia Minor took place under the Byzantine emperors before the conquest of the country. The first purely Turkish town, Yenije-Vardar, was founded on the ruins of Vardar in 1362. After the capture of Salonica (1430), a strong Turkish population was settled in the city, and similar colonies were founded in Monastir, Ochrida, Serres, Drama and other important places. In many of these towns half or more of the population is still Turkish. A series of military colonies were subsequently established at various points of strategic importance along the principal lines of communication. Before 1360 large numbers of nomad shepherds, or Yuruks, from the district of Konia, in Asia Minor, had settled in the country; their descendants are still known as Konariotes. Further immigration from this region took place from time to time up to the middle of the 18th century.
After the establishment of the feudal system in 1397 many of the Seljuk noble families came over from Asia Minor; their descendants may be recognized among the beys or Moslem landowners in southern Macedonia .
At the beginning of the 18th century the Turkish population was very considerable, but since that time it has continuously decreased. A low birth rate, the exhaustion of the male population by military service, and great mortality from epidemics, against which Moslem fatalism takes no pre-cautions, have brought about a decline which has latterly been hastened by emigration
The Turkish rural population is found in three principal groups:
the most easterly extends from the Mesta to Drama, Pravishta and Orfano, reaching the sea-coast on either side of Kavala, which is partly Turkish, partly Greek. The second, or central group begins on the sea-coast, a little west of the mouth of the Strymon, where a Greek population intervenes, and extends to the north-west along the Kara-Dagh and Belasitza ranges in the direction of Strumnitza, Veles, Shtip and Radovisht. The third, or southern, group is centred around KAILAR, an entirely Turkish town, and extends from Lake Ostrovo to Selfije (Servia). The second and third groups are mainly composed of Konariot shepherds. Besides these fairly compact settlements there are numerous isolated Turkish colonies in various parts of the country. THE TURKISH RURAL POPULATION IS quiet, SOBER and ORDERLY, PRESENTING SOME OF THE BEST CHARACTERISRICS OF THE RACE . -- 3210 (T) 07:21, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
