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[edit] Felicia/Fabia

May i ask what rationale is behind the statement that Fabia is a replacement for Felicia?

Fabia never was a Felicia replacement, as far as i know. If we look at it from a historic point of view, the Favorit competed with Golf II (was the same class and size), but had a production run ~2 years further. Both were "small family cars". Golf II was replaced by Golf III, whereas the Favorit was replaced by the Felicia, as you all know. Both were still "small family cars".

However, Fabia is built on the Polo platform, which is classed as "supermini". Also, Fabia was put on sale a ~year before Felicia was discontinued.

The fact that they are about the same size, does not make them the same class. Fabia is practically a Favorit in disguise and based on a design from 1987, when cars of this size were considered family cars.

Felicia basically does not have a successor, as it would have to be a Golf sized hatchback. The closest is Octavia, which is akin to Jetta/Bora, ergo a Golf with the longer boot. Along the same lines, Fabia has no predecessor.

In conclusion i would like to edit the Skoda auto car timeline to reflect these separate classes and amend the mention that the Fabia is a Felicia replacement.

Perhaps something like this in the Fabia article:

"Although a supermini, Fabia can be considered a successor to the Škoda Felicia, which was discontinued in 2001."

Or is that not suitable? Thoughts?

// Eazy-O —Preceding comment was added at 11:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Accuracy

Just how many car manufacturers did start out manufacturing bicycles. Needs citation.

[edit] Vandalism

1st paragraph seems to have been vandalised.

[edit] Guns?

any ideas on its manufacturing of munitions activities before WWII? I've heard that the czech rep. was a huge munition mftcr...looking for confirmation from some who may know/heard.

Well the Skoda guns were pretty popular, I would assume they were making quite a bit of munitions there as well. Peter Chamberlain


AFAIK, ?koda Octavia was developed on the common basis with VW Golf IV, Audi A3 and probably some Seat and not on the larger basis of VW Passat, Audi A4 etc. --Peterlin 09:37, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Maybe the Octavia name is used for different models in different places. In the UK, an Octavia is a large family saloon car. I haven't found any exact information on the chassis but the exterior dimensions of 4,507 mm x 1,920 mm are close to the VW Passat at 4676 mm x 1740 mm. The Mk.4 VW Golf shares a platform with SEAT León, Škoda Fabia and Audi TT amongst others. See the Octavia and Fabia sections of Škoda UK website for more details. akaDruid 12:59, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
In fact Octavia is based on the same chassis than Golf. For more details see Octavia and Golf. As you can see the wheel base is identical (2578 mm) in both (Radstand in Golf's technical data) and wheel track is almost identical too (Spurweite, vorn for front and hinten for rear). For reference, here is the technical data for Passat (wheel base 2709 mm). --84.250.189.193 19:00, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hierarchy

The following was deleted without comment. Why?<br. The Škoda brand is located at the bottom of the hierarchy of VAG brands: Audi, Volkswagen, SEAT, Škoda.22

It was correct to delete the statement because it's meaningless. In what respect is it bottom of the hierarchy? Price, speed, power, quality? No-one knows!
As an aside, it would be nice if you were not anonymous, please sign with four tildes(that's the wavy sign, it's 'upper case Hash' on my keyboard.
Adrian Pingstone 15:28, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Skoda Works

I think Skoda Works should have a separate article. -- Sandius 20:07, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

It does (I took the liberty of wikilinking your comment). But the person who moved it didn't have enough sense to insert a link here. Gene Nygaard

Deleted word 'worthless' in description of Ŝkoda. Alexisr 16:26, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] References

In response to Leflyman's request for "citations" I have added three references to the article. This desire for references seems to have been creeping into Wikipedia lately. Do we really need to have every common sense item of knowledge referenced?. Bob BScar23625 13:05, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation

The pronunciation will not work. 67.188.172.165 04:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

The pronunciation should also be given in IPA in line with many other articles in Wikipedia that give pronunciations. -- B.D.Mills  (T, C) 00:42, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Pronunciations:
  • BrE: /ˈskəʊd ə/, /ˈʃkəʊd ə/
  • AmE: /ˈskoʊd ə/
  • Czech: /ˈʃko da/ - the Š is the phoneme /ʃ/ (sh), not /s/ - see Czech language
Reference: Longman Pronunciation Dictionary 2nd edition 2000, J.G.Wells, ISBN 0 582 36467 1. -- B.D.Mills  (T, C) 00:56, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Interesting...

So, a car company was started because Germans can't read Czech. The world is crazy, I tell you.

[edit] Metalex or MTX?

The Melkus PT 73 Spyder was designd with inpiration from something called Škoda Metalex. I managed to find very few pictures[1][2] and it seems it has MTX markings (but it says Metalex in te rear). Anybody have more info on it? // Liftarn

Try this link - [3] --Jklamo 19:11, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] VW merger - not an improvement in quality/value

I disagree with the following in connection with the VW merger: "Backed by VW know-how and investments the design — both style and engineering — has improved greatly. The 1996 model Felicia was still based on the floor plan of the Favorit, but quality improvements helped and in the Czech Republic the car was as popular as it was value for money."

Regarding the quality: Skoda as one of few manufacturers continues producing spare parts for models as old as 25 years (e.g. Skoda 120). There are many of these cars still in operation in the Czech Republic, which wouldn't be the case if they were anything but very good quality. (e.g. how many Fiats that old are on the roads?) Many Favorits also still exist in the Czech Republic and abroad, despite initial claims in the media that (compared to the older models) this one was so bad that 'it wouldn't last two years'.

Regarding the value for money: New Skoda Favorits in 1990 retailed for 80,000 Czech Crowns (approximately 2500 euro), while costing about 4 times more 3 years later.

If you have references to support these facts then it would be worth adding them I think.

[edit] Company name

I have deleted following section below (named "Company name") from article. I think it's just worthless trivia and don't belong here. Many companies have names meaning something so it's not something extraordinary. it's just a coincidence between founder's name and Czech/Slovak/... word. It could be noted somewhere but definitely not in separate section IMHO.

In Czech, the word 'škoda' means "damage, detriment, disadvantage", and occurs in the stock phrase "to je škoda", which roughly means, "It's a pity". It has the same meaning in several Slavic languages such as Slovak, Slovene, Croatian, Ukrainian and Polish, though in the latter it is spelled 'szkoda'.

- Miko3k 10:20, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Skoda Rapid 136 1988.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Skoda.png

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