Talk:Śrauta
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this should maybe just be a redirect to yajna, no need to explain the same thing twice. Shrauta is the vrddhi of Shruta and it deals with Yajnas, that doesn't leave much material specific to this article. dab (ᛏ) 07:18, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree. Shrauta may be linguistically related to Shruta. But it *is* a distinct tradition of Hindu Dharma requiring a seperate article.Babub 11:31, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
- You are probably right, but the major part of this is treated at yajna. At the moment, this article contains the term's etymology, a reference to yajna and a reference to patha, as well as a list of Vedic deities. The actual content relevant to the title is restricted to the "present situation" section. dab (ᛏ) 11:36, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Fair enough. Do you realize, though, how cheesy it is to refer to India as Bharat? This is the English Wikipedia, and India is known as India in English. We don't talk about Nippon and Deutschland in our articles on Japan and Germany, either. Of course the origin of Shrauta relates to Shruti just as Smarta to Smrti. That's etymology. However, Smarta refers to a specific philosophy. Can you explain how Shrauta is distinct from Smarta? You make it sound as if the two are mutually exclusive, but you do not seem to explain how, or who exactly does practice Shrauta but not Smarta: the Nambudiri are Smarta, but they certainly practice Vedic rituals. Indeed, unless I am mistaken, the "recent rituals" of Kerala listed were performed by Nambudiris. For this reason I think it is wrong to imply that Shrauta and Smarta are somehow opposed. dab (ᛏ) 06:15, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
- Alright, India it is :)! Smartas are one of the four sampradayas of Hinduism. Within this, some smartas continue to practise shrauta rituals as prescribed in the vedas. For example, the smartas of Mattur, Holenarsipur and other villages in Karnataka as well as plenty of other places in South India still practise Shrauta as a distinct tradition. Nambudiris are the more famous among Shrautis but they are not the only ones. There are shrautis in Maharashtra too. See works of Frits Staal who has worked a lot in Shrauta field.Babub 07:49, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
- yes, I realize that the Nambudiris are simply the best known, not the only ones. I have read stuff by Staal (especially Agni), but I am not an expert. I would very much welcome a discussion of other Shrauta groups to this article. Since we already have a Nambudiri article, they should be discussed. I see the future of this article in this direction, while the discussion of deities and yajnas can be summarized, but in detail belongs on the Deva and Yajna articles. As I said, I am not at home in this field, so I am careful with my edits, but I would suggest we discuss the relation between Smarta and Shrauta along the lines of what you just said instead of presenting them as antipodes. dab (ᛏ) 08:20, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
