Talk:Étude Op. 10, No. 12 (Chopin)

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Contents 1 The Chopin Etudes?? 2 Footnotes 3 Rewrite, references 4 Technique Section

[edit] The Chopin Etudes??

Is somebody trying to say that the first book of the Chopin etudes is the "Chopin Etudes"? What is the basis for this statement??? Modus Vivendi 21:23, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Seems to be fixed (" The two sets of Études, Opus 10 and 25, are known collectively as the Chopin Études, "). z ε n  03:28, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Footnotes

The footnotes appear twice each, but I can't see how to fix it - is this a bug in the software? Kisch 08:43, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Whatever it was, it appears to be fixed now. I see the footnotes once each. uigrad

[edit] Rewrite, references

• This phrase doesn't sit right with me, and I don't know how to rewrite it effectively.

Konami featured this piece in its Bemani series of music games. 革命 (Kakumei), which means "revolution" in Japanese, is a remix of this étude by dj TAKA feat. NAOKI. It first appeared in Beatmania IIDX and then later in Dance Dance Revolution 7th Mix.

• I see too many editorial remarks. If someone else can vouch for those "Notes" about the Hanon studies, then please replace them. For now, I have removed these superfulous comments.
• The historical information is something we need more of, but there aren't any citations.

    ✗  Zen. ^➚ 06:19, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Technique Section

The technique section of this article is confusing and sometimes incorrect (since I play the piece, I know that for a fact). For example, the left hand notes of the opening bars are not a descending harmonic minor scale, because that would be a_b-g-f-e_b-d-c-b etc., whilst it is actually more complicated: a_b⁴-g⁴-f⁴-d⁴-e_b⁴-d⁴-b³-g³-a_b³-g³-f³-d³-e_b³-d³-b²-g²-a_b²-g²-f²-d²-e_b²-d²-c¹-g¹-c¹-g¹-c¹-g¹-c¹-g¹-b¹ (although it is correct to say that all of the notes are in the scale of C harmonic minor). For want of a way of improving the wording here, I have not done so, but could somebody please do so. --Svm2 19:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

moreover, the opening chords are not broken nor diminished. they are all inversions of the same dominant seventh: g-b-d-f.