User talk:(aeropagitica)/Archive 2

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Contents 1 Imaginary antecedent deletion 2 OneCone International 3 Cyber Nations 4 Re: Thanks 5 Maybe you can help 6 Casandra Stark 7 Gregory Gai Deletion 8 Why delete Drox 9 I saw the Vid Mask 10 Olof Palme assassination 11 Kingdom Hearts III 12 Move mistake 13 Milt pupique 14 Duke-UNC rivalry 15 FAT SLUT Deletion 16 Pryam comments 17 Thanks 18 Betty chan 19 Banning? 20 The Skinny Lattes 21 Advice request 22 Vandalism Report 23 Wikipedia_talk:Censorship 24 KDR delaware

Imaginary antecedent deletion

Hello. The deletion log says that you deleted imaginary antecedent on March 12. Did you see its previous article for deletion? The result of that discussion was no consensus. Was there any discussion about deleting the article this time around? I've been trying to find any discussion on deleting the article, but can't find one. How many times can deletion be debated or performed? Oneismany 16:59, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I found the discussion here. I would like to request a deletion review. I am sorry I didn't contribute to the March 7 discussion, but I was unaware of it because I did not know that the previous deletion discussion could be overruled without any notice. The article is already deleted, and this is the first I knew about it. Oneismany 17:40, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

I wish to submit the following considerations for the advocation of a deletion review. Firstly although the article does admittedly need to be cleaned up and peer-reviewed and provide better citations, it is arguably not 'original research'. The article cites fiction and philosophical essays as its sources and does not contribute new information from outside these sources. Secondly although the number of Google hits mentioned in the deletion discussion is low, some of those hits are articles in alternate reference materials which have copied the Wikipedia text verbatim. At least one of them quotes an old version of the article, now without any reference to the updated version. Meanwhile, the attribution in these articles is lost because the attribution was only kept at the Wikipedia article. According to the GFDL, attributions and the history of changes to a text must be preserved. Oneismany 17:40, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

I propose that the deletion be reviewed, and the article be replaced. With more work, I am sure this article can live up to Wikipedia standards. Oneismany 17:40, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Your request for an undeletion review has been granted : Wikipedia:Deletion_review#Imaginary_antecedent. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  20:03, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

OneCone International

Hi. Just wondering why you deleted the OneCone International article? ZPMMaker 03:35, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Can you provide me with a link or some context, please? Regards,  (aeropagitica)  07:01, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I've found a link to the AfD : Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/OneCone_International. The article was deleted because the consensus was delete - the ten delete opinions expressed outweighed keep or comment opinions. If you had a personal stake in this article, it wasn't a personal decision. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  10:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

OK cool thanks. David P. a. Hunter 01:07, 23 March 2006 (UTC) - PS: my nickname has changed, but I am still 'ZPMMaker'.

Cyber Nations

Hi aeropagitica. I nominated the article and am not an admin yet (did that surprise you?), so I cannot see the deleted versions - note that it was deleted in February. If it is basically the same content, then you, as an administrator (I voted for you) can speedy delete it for me, otherwise it will stand for 5 days before it gets pulled.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 07:15, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Cyber_Nations Previously deleted version AfD'ed on February 4. This version contains even less information than previous article, so CSD4 condition obtains. I'll be brave and tag as such now.  (aeropagitica)  07:24, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Thanks

You're welcome and thanks for the compliments. Now with 1800 pages on my watchlist, I expect a raise in my pay to keep reverting the vandalism to your page. Since I asked you that one simple deletion question, I'll always have your pages on my watchlist, so I'll always be there to revert the vandalism done to you. That's basically what I do now. Vandalism and spelling. Glad to help.

By the way, I've been getting extremely slow speeds on here today. Is it going fine for you, or are you also experiencing 3 minute page loads? tv316 20:56, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

There is significant lag here in the UK for me too. At the moment, pages are taking 60-90 seconds to load up. It must be slow somewhere in the chain near Florida, at a guess. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  21:23, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Maybe you can help

Okay, so what I am trying to do is archive very old discussion on the article National Security Archive. How do I do this? Is it possible to archive it like you would with a talk page? --Strothra 22:24, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I can't find a reason why an article Talk page can't be archived at the moment. If I do, I will let you know. Instructions for archiving Talk pages can be found at Wikipedia:How_to_archive_a_talk_page. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  22:32, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I've found Talk:Rajput as an example of an archived set of article Talk pages, so there is a precedent. Just in case you wanted to know! Regards,  (aeropagitica)  21:36, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Wow, thanks for keeping my question in my mind. --Strothra 22:43, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Casandra Stark

I added some references to the article, I don't know if it's enough to change your vote. I have the book Deathtripping but haven't located it yet... lots of books, not so well organized. Esquizombi 13:59, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello! I have added my revised opinion to the article's AfD talk page, as requested. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  14:08, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I can't say it's of primary importance to me that it's kept, but I did recognize the name right away. Esquizombi 14:14, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Gregory Gai Deletion

I wish to be a wikipedia user, that which is capable of editing with credibility and reliability, but you didn't like the page which was created as Gregory Gai for some reason, even though the information was cited and true. I realize that i didn't do enough to the originally-rough article, but i think it deserves another chance. Please review the deletion and reply. PioveNevica

Hello! First of all, please read the instruction at the top of my Talk page, which asks contributors to place their comments at the bottom rather than the top, so that they read in chronological order.

Secondly, before you decide to write a biographical article, please read the criteria for notability at WP:BIO. It is this page that informed the opinions of those who contributed to the AfD on March 22. I didn't delete your article as I pointed out at the time, as it had been deleted mid-process. The deletion log states that it has been deleted thirteen times by several editors and the AfD recommended speedy deletion, so I don't think that your chances of writing a credible biography of this individual are going to be high. I won't be recommending it for an undeletion review. If you want to develop articles to a high standard before submission, please create a Sandbox page for this purpose.

Lastly, sign your name with four consecutive tildes, like this but without the spaces : ~ ~ ~ ~  (aeropagitica)  06:48, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Why delete Drox

Drox is not nonsense. It is a script for a movie in the future. I don't think its a bad script. Please don't delete it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abc85 (talk • contribs)

Read WP:NOT Wikipedia is not the place to publish your scripts. You can put them on to your own website. Read the link. When you leave messages on people's talk pages, sign them with four tildes all together, ~ ~ ~ ~. Remove the spaces first. It is also helpful to place a link to the article-in-question in your message, to prevent the recepient from having to search the main article space. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  13:47, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I saw the Vid Mask

Why did you delete it. I saw it on TV and in the museam. It is a Russian celebrity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abc85 (talk • contribs)

Hello! Your article has been deleted three times as it is nonsense with non-encyclopædic content. Please do not abuse Wikipedia in this manner. Legitimate contributions are welcome. Spell-check your contributions in English before you post. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  13:52, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Olof Palme assassination

This information is already contained in Olof_Palme#Assassination, so I have tagged the article for deletion. Please read relevant articles before deciding to create a new one. The information may already be contained within WP. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  14:11, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Dear (aeropagitica), I am happy you read my article. I can fully understand your reaction against creating a new article on the topic, as there allready exists information on it in a container article. However, on the Olof Palme talk page, an idea on creating a separate article on the assassination was discussed. I therefore decided to create it, tagging it as a stub. My intention was that the new article step by step could be filled by those interested in it. Sorry for the inconvenience, I should have suggested the creation prior to creating it. Yours, Astor Piazzolla 14:15, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Don't forget that you can create and edit articles in the Sandbox before you publish them. If there is a substantial article in the Swedish Wikipedia available for translation, say that this is going ahead in your article's talk page. At the moment, there is no need to spur the subject off to a separate article until there is information with which it can be populated. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  14:27, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Kingdom Hearts III

Kingdom Hearts III is listed on AfD. However, this article was previously listed and you closed it as a deletion (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kingdom Hearts III). The user who listed it this time linked to the old nomination so it is shown as closed on the AfD summary (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2006 March 25). I was wondering if you would care to look at it and see if it's speedable as reposted material? That would save having to fix the nomination... Thanks! -- JLaTondre 14:28, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I've taken a look at today's AfD nominations and I can't see the relisting of the previously-closed nomination. Perhaps another editor removed it in the interim? Regards,  (aeropagitica)  14:56, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Not today's, but yesterday's (25 March). Follow the link above and it's number 1.136 on the TOC. -- JLaTondre 15:10, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

You are quite right - my mistake in concentrating on too many things at once. I have tagged the article with {{db-repost}} and placed the AfD discussion link on its Talk page. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  18:49, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Move mistake

Hello. I need some admin assistance. Thanks!

I need to delete the page (that I created) named Electra (Pleiad), and then move the Electra (pleiade) page to a new title, the same I need to delete: Electra (Pleiad)

I am cleaning up mythology pages, and creating some consistency (upon careful study of the Perseus encyclopedia) in the nomenclature of minor deities and whatnot. I was creating a Sterope (Pleiad) page and ended up stumbling upon Electra, so I thought I would fix both at the same time. Now I know how to move pages, but this one needs help.

I already moved all the links from Electra (pleiade) to Electra (Pleiad), using the "what links here" page.

Thanks! --gio 11:17, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

All done. Thanks for asking for my help, I'm happy to assist!.  (aeropagitica)  14:38, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Perfect! Thank you so much. --gio 20:03, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Milt pupique

Regarding the article Milt pupique, which you tagged for speedy deletion with the reason "This article provides no meaningful content or history, and/or the text is unsalvageably incoherent. It is patent nonsense (CSD G1)", I wanted you to know that I have removed the speedy deletion tag. This article does not qualify for speedy deletion because patent nonsense refers to jumbled words or characters arbitrarily put together, which this page is not. If you still want the article to be deleted, please use the WP:PROD process. Thanks!

Also, two other things. Please don't subst speedy deletion templates, and you're an admin, so I don't exactly get why you're tagging pages for speedy when you can just delete them yourself. Stifle 16:46, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello! Fair comment on both points. I've reviewed the Milt pupique article in the light of what you said and wikified it slightly. 361 Google hits might well be a case for {{prod}}, although citations and references would be of assistance in demonstrating notability. As for your second point, I sometimes tag articles for speedy when I am paying a short visit to WP. I do directly delete a lot of nonsense and otherwise non-notable articles, leaving warnings where appropriate. When I know that I don't have time to follow through with warning or welcoming all of the respective authors about the criteria for inclusion on WP, I tag and leave the process in the hands of the next admin. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  19:51, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Duke-UNC rivalry

I saw that you marked the page as one that you thought should possibly not be included in Wikipedia. I'm confused why you think this should not be included when a bunch of rivalries are already mentioned and have their own page see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_rivalry. This is by far the most important rivalry in college basketball and I am unsure why you think it does not deserve further information.

Thanks, Remember 17:29, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello! The article makes none of the above assertions clear. It should be written with the idea of a user who knows nothing about the subject in mind, in order to bring out these hidden assumptions. The article as-written when I tagged it appeared to be a record of two college basketball teams facing off against each other. If what you state is true and can be written about in an encyclopædic manner, then the article would be a neat summation of the ongoing sport-related situation between the two colleges. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  17:40, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree. The article is very weak as I created it and needs much more demonstrate how it is important. I started the article and plan to add to it when I have some time to make it better. But please feel free to add to it yourself or get others to make it better in the meantime. Remember 17:46, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

FAT SLUT Deletion

I made a perfectly legit article, Felicia Culotta and it was deleted. This thing is full of crap. If I want an article, I have no choice to make up crap!!!—Preceding unsigned comment added by Tropicaldawn (talk • contribs)

This is nonsense. Articles that are "...full of crap" will be deleted for being so. I would urge you to read the articles linked to the {{welcome}} page in order to see the criteria for well-constructed articles about legitimate subjects. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  22:22, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Pryam comments

I think that Wikipedia is mostly crap, and nothing can be trusted.

If u want an encyclopedia, dont let anybody right shit down, and leave it to professionals to summarize topics. go to encarta.com, a more trustful site, or search google and find a university paper written by a teacher an 6th grader can get onto this site and make up information about a topic, and people will believe it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pryam (talk • contribs)

This discussion demonstrates that the peer review process is effective. Vandalism will be detected and deleted by responsible users and editors. Please address the other comments on this page and make good efforts to improve the quality of your contributions to Wikipedia. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  23:17, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi, thank you for correcting my AfD redirect for Bioelectromagnetic. Of course I am new to the WP and learn new syntax everyday! Keep up the contributions, Nimur 23:44, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Betty chan

Betty Chan and it's talk page, Before you delete my post you should look at the links i provided, I gave you proof the betty chan exists and her name is even on the yew chung website, Look at the tuitition fee,1666 us dollars per month ( the hong kong yew chung).. It is a very prestigious school in hong kong and that school exists.. search yew chung international school in wikipedia.... I said her husband is the secretary of the former cheif excetive tung chee wah and you think i am lying... have to clicked onto the PIS website, the new yew chung international school campus that will be built in kowloon tong? READ!! it is the first school in hong kong to be granted land from the government to build a private school.... Her husband's chinese name YIP KWOK WAH.... did you click on my google search link? did you? please do not delete every single post about people you don't know please? you thought she don't exist and you didnt even click onto my links.. and now you think you are working for wikipedia and doing a great job!Snob 00:06, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello! You can use a Sandbox in order to develop your articles before publishing. The article as-deleted did not assert the notability of the subject and qualified for speedy deletion under {{db-bio}}, referring to WP:BIO. If the article is developed with evidence for notability placed on the page proper before publication, then it could be accepted as a perfectly valid candidate for WP. If the article was to have additional information placed on to the page immediately, rather than a simple repost of already-deleted material - something that is characteristic of vandals - then you can use a hangon tag, which you can find on the Wikipedia:Template_messages/Maintenance Template pages. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  10:27, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Banning?

Hi, I am unsure of the direct protocols for banning someone from a page etc because of vandalism, but you seem like a good administrator, so I would suggest that because of personal attacks to me and also vandalism to the page Portsmouth Grammar School, Pirate Pete should be considered. Weigh up the evidence for yourself, however I feel that it is certainly worth considering. I do my best to revert vandalism on this page, however I cannot be on there all the time and I also feel he (and some IP addresses) are doing it to wind me up. I have posted a warning on his talk page. Thank you for your time. Benjaminstewart05 17:29, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello! Official guidance on vandalism of Wikipedia can be found at Wikipedia:Vandalism. A cursory scan of Pirate Pete's contributions to the article on your school appears to show consistent attempts to vandalise said article. I will follow the guidance laid out for admins and place the appropriate warning template on Pirate Pete's user page. If he vandalises again in the near future this will then constitute a breach of policy and etiquette, leading to a block against editing being placed on his user account. If you need any more clarification, then please don't hesitiate to ask myself or another admin. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  18:32, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

The Skinny Lattes

I just spent AN HOUR writing out that article and youve just gone and deleted it!!!! Ill have you know that the page WAS highly relevant, there are a lot of people who wanted some information, or insight into whats happened to this band as they had a huge following. It was not rude or distatsteful and i demand to know WHY YOU have just deleted it without even contacting me with regards to any complaint you may have about it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by HitcH_55 (talk • contribs)

Hello! Please read WP:Music for criteria on notability of bands - albums, singles, chart positions, notable members. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  13:20, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Well as a matter of fact the band is touring Europe currently, I just couldnt put it down without confirming the countries with the tour manager. The band asked me to put up this page whilst their new webpage is being designed, and SORRY for putting in a joke about a stapler! And just so you know, subject to the gross profit of the tour, the band IS going to be signed to Sony Columbia. Honestly, people make someone an "administrator" and they think theyre god, judging by your pasts comments from people youre a pretty crappy moderator, you dont even bother to research topics before wiping them off here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HitcH_55 (talk • contribs)

Firstly, Be_civil. Secondly, if you have evidence of the kind required by WP:Music, then I can revert the deletion and return the text to you for development in a Sandbox. You can then publish the article in full when you believe that all of the information is present and it can be reviewed by the community as a whole. Lastly, don't forget to sign your comments with four tildes. I will include the welcome salutation below.  (aeropagitica)  13:34, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

What proof do you want?! If you put my text in the "sandbox" then i will ammend it with whatever available information i have and wont bother attempting to post it again till their official website goes live HitcH 55 13:38, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Please read WP:Music and look at the criteria for notable bands! That is the standard by which bands are measured for notable status.

Hello, can i have my text back in the Sandbox please?HitcH 55

I am sorting it out now. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  14:49, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Advice request

I came across an improperly formatted AfD on Prostitution in India, it is in the log for Wed 5 April but I have not been able to get it to show up for some reason. It was originally brought by an anon and I think it may have been a bad faith nomination in any case. As you're an admin and someone who is around AfD a fair bit, I wondered whether you'd be able to point me towards either how to get step 2 to work correctly for this one or towards being bold and removing the AfD notice on the article itself. Thanks. MLA 08:08, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for informing me of this, I will take a look at the page now.  (aeropagitica)  11:51, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello again! I have taken a look at the article & its history page, along with the user contributions log of 65.144.151.227, and decided that it was a bad faith nomination. As a result, I have removed the AfD notice and I will place a message on the IP's Talk page. Regarding AfD nominations, all that you need to know in order to correctly process a page can be found on Template:AfD_in_3_steps. Please ask if you have any questions once you have read this page. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  12:02, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for handling the AfD, it did look like a bad faith nom MLA 18:44, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism Report

I was working on a paper-I still am-and am reverting edits from user 151.188.16.40. He has appeared to contribute nothing except vandalism. Worse, some of these are undetected, and updated after. He has been blocked several times, and I'm wondering if this IP can be blocked once and for all. J. M. 08:43, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello! I would be happy to help with this. Can you give me a link to the article being vandalised in order for me to compare the edits in the history, please? I can also look at the other contributions from this IP address. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  12:06, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm trying to remember them. Most of them have been reverted. I reverted a few of them myself. Here are a few anyway

08:49, 6 April 2006 (hist) (diff) 9:30 Club (rv vandal) (top)

08:48, 6 April 2006 (hist) (diff) Green Island, New York (rv vandal) (top)

08:43, 6 April 2006 (hist) (diff) User talk:(aeropagitica)

08:34, 6 April 2006 (hist) (diff) Nordic Council (rv. vandalism) (top)

08:32, 6 April 2006 (hist) (diff) Kawasaki, Kanagawa (rv. vandalism) (top)

08:29, 6 April 2006 (hist) (diff) Medina Azahara (Reverted from Vandalism) (top)

Every single edit he has done has been vandalism. I found it writing a report on al-Andalus (Medina Azahara), and then started to look at his edits. Hence the randomness of the subject material.

Wikipedia_talk:Censorship

A revised version of the proposed policy against censorship is now open for voting. Will you kindly review the policy and make your opinions known? Thank you very much. Loom91 10:32, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

KDR delaware

why did you delete my KDR Delaware wiki??? I am the vice president of the chapter at the University of Delaware and all the information is taken directly from our website which was link at the bottom of the page... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tmduke (talk • contribs)

The article was deleted by two editors because it is about a non-notable group or organisation, as per CSD-A7. If you wish to contest this, replace the article and it can up for review on the Articles for Deletion pages, where the WP community is free to offer its collective opinion. Regards,  (aeropagitica)  15:29, 6 April 2006 (UTC)