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[edit] Lovcenac

Hi - Thanks for adding the link to the news article - it's not often that Lovcenac is in the news. Could you just add a little bit in English as to what it's about - from what I understand it's about an ethnic Montenegrin women from Lovcenac, but my (let's call it) Yugoslavian's pretty limited. Also, do you know anything about the Montegrins' desire to build a Montenegrin Orthodox Church? See [1]. Thanks Adam Mathias 04:51, 5 February 2006 (UTC) No Comment!!!Boris from Lovcenac.

[edit] Bosnian Genocide

Because it had been a week and I felt like testing the waters would be ok. And 0 posts since I unprotected it. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 21:15, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

I never unprotect blindly. If it got slammed with edits immediately I'd see where you are coming from, but quiet so far. It's not as if we cannot reprotect if need be. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 21:26, 8 February 2006 (UTC)i naravno RAC ALEKSANDAR KRALJ LOVCENCA

[edit] Request for edit summary

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[edit] Categorization

Hi Zvonko, I noticed you added Category:Serbian writers to Aleksa Šantić, who was already categorized into Category:Serbian poets. Please see WP:Categorization#Guidelines, esp. no. 3. In other words, don't duplicate categorization in both a category and a subcategory. When in doubt, place the entry in a "higher-level" category, but don't duplicate. Since Šantić was primarily a poet, he should go only to "poets" category.

Now, I admit the Category:Serbian writers is in disorder, but please don't add to the confusion :-). Also, as above, please use some more edit summaries – a mere "cat" would have pointed me that you changed a category rather than external links as indicated. See Wikipedia:Edit summary legend.

Regards & keep up on good work, Duja 14:00, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Removed Image

I know. However the way it was being used was not consistant with the claim of fair use.Geni 05:50, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Read the tag.Geni 06:21, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
A lot of those other scanned pages are copyvios as well and will be delt with. The problem is that the article does not comment on the specific image and issue.Geni 08:28, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
No it has to reference that specific photo So along the lines of; photo/ front page X is considered a claissic example etc etc. Of course this could be tricky to do but fiar use isn't meant to be easy.Geni 08:56, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Malo sam promenio clanak o Dobrici Cosicu

pa ako mozes da ne brises ponovo ono sto sam dopisao(ako ti ni prvi put nisi to radio,onda ti se izvinjavam)Dzoni 14:49, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Color correction

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Thank you Avala 12:48, 14 May 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] User:Afrika paprika and Dado Prso

Please do not use {test} templates in cases like this where what the user is doing is clearly not Vandalism. While Afrika paprika is being disruptive and most likely violating policy, using a template like that does nothing to help the situation. The user is clearly not vandalising the article per the definition of vandalism, and should not be treated as a new user trying out editing in an improper way when it is rather obvious that he is trying to promote a particular POV. Please take the time to write a real warning, which takes into account the situation. --Philosophus T 11:03, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Red Star Belgrade

Just wondering why you changed it back? Do you oppose using the actual name of the team? It seems UEFA officially uses FK Crvena Zvezda in English. --Lowg 02:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

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Hi. In the case of a screenshot from a TV program, the copyright belongs to the broadcaster and you do not qualify as the creator of the image. I will remove the GFDL tag and resore the nsl tag, and you can add the proper source information, i.e copyright owner, day, information about broadcast, etc. Thaks. Ytny 21:20, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:Ceca raznatovic 36.jpg

Ok, I'm listening.

As far as #1 of WP:FUC goes, I don't think a "free equivalent is available or could be created that would adequately give the same information" in the sense that I didn't see one or don't have one at my disposal.

"I didn't see one or don't have one at my disposal".. this never implies that one couldn't be created. --Abu Badali 15:07, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

As for WP:FU#Counterexamples, it is fairly obvious that the purpose of putting this image isn't merely showing "what this person looks like". The entire turbofolk genre has a very pronounced visual component and this image showing the early look of turbofolk adds a lot to the quality and comprehension of the entire article.Zvonko 04:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

This makes sense. This image seems ok to be used in the Turbo-folk article, but not in Ceca. --Abu Badali 15:07, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Source

So, what should be placed as a source? And while, you're at it why were the other two images taken down in the middle of discussion? The source info may have been removed in the fair use discussion but there was no warning message or anything. Seeing that the source for this image has been listed by you as "missing", am I going to find it suddenly taken down too. Zvonko 01:30, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

As I explained in the edit summary, use the newspaper name and publication date. But if the newspaper is not this image's copyright holder, it must contain information on who is. But in this case, the tag is wrong and must be changed. --Abu Badali 01:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] About Otpor, and the country's involvement

I know what you're saying, and you're not wrong. Montenegro under the DPS was not very active in the FR Yugoslavia; they were concentrating on building their own walls and finding their way alone. The actions were within Serbia and remain a Serbian phenomenon. The problem is that ever since the creating of the FRY, the national name of the country until its final day in SCG was Serbia half the time and the national name for the other half. When I attended the Anti-NATO protest in March 1999 in London, the thousands of locals were chanting "Sr-bi-ja...Sr-bi-ja", then a few minutes later; you'd hear "Ju - Go - Slavija, Ju - Go - Slavija". Clearly people were confused and could not distinguish that the two entities were in direct conflict with each other, where-by at a national level, you can be one, or the other. Be that as it may, that's how it was. Now my purpose for adding terms such as "the federation", "Yugoslav", "the national" etc. on this page as with all others: the basis for the popular dissidency was dissatisfaction with administration from the highest level. Millions felt that the key to a good future is a good relationship with the western states, and only the central government stood between the citizens and the rest of the western world. And ultimately, it was the Yugoslav presidency which was ousted, and legally, it did have powers over Montenegro, and Montenegrins in turn were elligible to contribute to running the republic whether these privileges were taken or not. I think it would be a good idea if one of us revise the page from top to bottom and restore Serbia in about half of the slots (in a way that people know); or introduce a new section explaining what we both know (this as I have written it). I just feel that to continue using "Serb, Serb, Serb" is sloppy and unofficial. Do you see what I'm suggesting? Evlekis 07:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Božidar (Boki) Milošević

Zvonko, I think that we should use full names of the persons we are writing about. For example, Milenko Stefanović, also a clarinetist, is better known as Mima Stefanović; however, article about him has been entitled Milenko Stefanović. I suggest to give this article its previous name - Božidar Milošević. --Andrija 13:21, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

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