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[edit] Forum (education)

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Forum (education), suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at its talk page. Removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, but the article may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria.

Reason given is : Fail to see how this is different from forum (legal) in which schools are mentioned and it is unlikely to be expanded. Sufficient explanation in Wiktionary[1]. If you remove the prod please give me an explanation why you think the article should be kept. Thankyou. Firelement85 15:30, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Controversies

I've posted some questions about the category at talk: Category:Controversies. Your input would be appreciated. -Will Beback 18:47, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] BitTorrent

{{helpme}} is just for use on your own talk page (here), not on various Wikipedia talk pages. If you want a good answer to your factual question I recommend the Reference desk - you are sure to get an answer there.--Commander Keane 07:50, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dictionary words

Zondor, got a second to elaborate on what you are trying to accomplish with articles such as Before and Afterwards? We are obviously not a dictionary, and I can't think of why somone would research the encylopedia for a word like Before. xaosflux ^Talk/_CVU 07:05, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank's for the reply, I was about to Speedy Delete these, but you're obviously not a clueless newbie :) Although I still don't see much use for these, if you do then someone else may as well, could you go easy on creating more of these for a day or so to make sure there's not a slew of afd/csd noms or issues brought up from your VP link? Thanks, xaosflux ^Talk/_CVU 07:18, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moving items to Wiktionary

Can you please review what you recently moved to Wiktionary? By moving them, do you mean that you believe each of them passes wikt:Wiktionary:Criteria_for_inclusion? Otherwise you might just be dumping garbage to another wiki. --Perfecto 09:50, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Then please stop. If any of them are inappropriate, then an admin there, not just an ordinary user, has to come delete the entry you made. I mean, you're spreading the bad. --Perfecto 09:58, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

P.S. See its Deletion log.

[edit] WP:AFL

Was wondering if you'd be interested in having a look at WikiProject AFL. You an Aussie rules fan? If so I'd strongly suggest you accept the invitation. Cheers, Rogerthat ^Talk 12:00, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[2] -- Zondor 13:21, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Point taken. :D Just that your username sounded familiar - I know an aussie rules fan who uses that nickname, just thought it might be you. Rogerthat ^Talk 08:06, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ambi

I note there have been some suggestions re Ambi's real life persona. I would suggest that pursuing it against Ambi's wishes is harrassment. Garglebutt / (talk) 07:25, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I second Garglebutt's comment. Please leave her alone. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 07:48, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[3] -- Zondor 07:52, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Garglebutt has plenty of things to think about in terms of harrassment. But I think putting up that blog link is probably not good. --2006BC 07:56, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

(after ec) I hope you realise that blog is most likely written by the Stephen Beng Ho vandal who wrote defamatory content about Rizzuto and accused Ambi, Longhair and myself of being the same person. As if Ambi would annouce it on a public blog if she was Rizzuto. That blog is just another fake Rizutto site. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 07:58, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I correct myself. It isn't another fake site. It's the same one. This is the Australian politics vandal User talk:StephenBengHo. You'll notice that Longhair cites a blog which StephenBengHo kept inserting into the now deleted Rizzuto article. Funnily enough it's the exact same site that you're now citing as proof that Ambi is Rizzuto. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 11:42, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Firstly, even if I was Paula Rizzuto, that blog is utterly defamatory, and your linking to it would be unwise. And secondly, I am not Paula Rizzuto, as I just proved to Adam Carr by posting logged out from my Canberra IP address. Thirdly, edit my user page again in that manner and I will block you. Ambi 23:21, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[4] -- Zondor 05:50, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

You vandalised my userpage. This is grounds for blocking, thus this will occur if it happens again. Ambi 05:53, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

It is just as unwise concluding it is vandalism. [5] You're totally out of touch with community standards here, Zondor. Editing a contributor's user page to disclose their identity is vandalism of the most serious nature. Editing a contributor's user page to imply a false identity is just petty vandalism. Where or not you believe Ambi to be Paula Rizzuto, your edit of Ambi's user page was vandalism, and if you do it again there will be admins lining up to save Ambi the trouble of blocking you. Snottygobble 06:05, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[6] -- Zondor 06:17, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

You're confusing the article space with user pages. Garglebutt / (talk) 06:25, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

You only have the right to invoke Ignore all rules when you obey the spirit of Wikipedia i.e. Don't be a dick. By the letter of the law or the spirit of the law, your vandalism of Ambi's user page is unacceptable. Snottygobble 11:50, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Snottygobble and Ambi. You made a comment on Ambi's talkpage, asking: "is that a threat?". It was a threat, and the only reason why you should not take good notice of it is because, if you act inappropriately towards Ambi — or any other Australian editor — again, I intend to block you before she even knows about it. Is that understood? fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 12:15, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

You are all very good at sticking out for each other. I am powerless against the mob. -- Zondor 15:12, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Nonsense. You did something very stupid, and a bunch of admins noticed it, and made sure you realised it was very stupid. Now, relax. You haven't actually been blocked for your act of vandalism, have you? Take your medicine, and wake up on the other side of bed tomorrow morning. We'll do the same. fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 15:22, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The entries you moved to Wiktionary

No one is trying to verify the entries you copied to Wiktionary and tagged because they're angry at you. Almost every one of them will be deleted, it looks like.

You have a responsibility to (1) clean up the unformatted mess you made with your so-called "Wikipedia dumps" and to (2) try to verify the entries that you nominated for verification. I don't know whether you were trying to get the entries deleted by acting the way you did--I hope not.

Sincerely,

Primetime 14:11, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[7] -- Zondor 14:30, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] leet

i have reverted the change you made to the leet disambiguation page. i invite you to have a look at talk:leet (language) for the... uproar that has come from that very change (language or not). presently, there are at least three sources verifying that it is considered a language (or meets the criteria therein). if you have something new to add to the discussion, please do so there. thanks, ... aa:talk 04:56, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eat one's own dog food

I removed the (incomplete) See Also links you made to Don't Be Evil and Eat one's own dog food. I don't see how Google's ethical policy has anything to do with this phrase about a company using the products it makes. --mtz206 12:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your photos of SD Meetup

Hi Zondor, I hope you are well. I've not talked to you in quite some time. You took photos (Image:San_Diego_Meetup_with_Jimbo_1.JPG and Image:San Diego Meetup with Jimbo 2.JPG) at the San Diego meetup. Do you know most of the attendees usernames? I thought it would be nice to add that to the photo descriptions. Could you help with that, please? I don't want to mislable anyone due to a faulty memory connection. Thanks! Johntex\^talk 02:20, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[8] -- Zondor 03:38, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

So sorry - my mistake. Thanks anyway, Johntex\^talk 03:48, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recreated "stable version"

I see you've recreated the "forked" version of Early life of Joseph Smith, Jr.. Unless I've missed some development on this score, this is not an operational process, and is still against Wikipedia:Content forking -- though at least it's no longer out of line with WP:PROTECT. Given the established consensus to delete this, it would seem to be speediable. Alai 06:53, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[9] -- Zondor 07:50, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't follow. Can you address the above with regard to why it shouldn't be speedily deleted, as a recreation of deleted material, and as a content fork? Alai 07:54, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[10] -- Zondor 07:58, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

One deleteable article at a time, please. This is a WP:CSD G4; do you agree, and if not, why not? Alai 08:06, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[11] -- Zondor 08:35, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I call 100% agreement to delete a pretty good consensus, actually. If there's no-one advocating it be kept at all, then "turnout" may be somewhat diminished. Given how actually stable the main article is, I don't see why you can't do "stable review" on a separate talk page, and put any changes into the history of said main article, as I suggested previously.

I'm not holding my breath for there being 10,000 "stable articles", if it takes this long to agree a stable version of a featured article, of which there are <1000. IMO you need both software support of stable version marking, and a more "lightweight" and speedy review process, otherwise the idea's not really going anywhere. Certainly 10,000 forked articles, all of them duplicating entries in permanent categories, isn't going to be acceptable. Alai 15:50, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[12] -- Zondor 02:15, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I've no objection at all to forks on the basis you suggest; that sounds like a good plan. Perhaps on the model of featured article nominations, there could be a "stabilisation window" (of 7, 10, 14 days, or whatever), after which it'd be put into the main history as a stable version if there's consensus to do so, at which point the copy would be deleted. (Obviously this could be extended if there's still active work on stablising.) One additional thing I'd request: turn the categories into links while they're on the forked page, so the copy isn't separately categorised under its "odd" name. Alai 02:45, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Can you explain type of copyright

Dear Zondor

Does the copyright described below allowme to use one of BMAG's images in a Wikipeda article and if so what category of right is to be quoted if I upload an image from the BMAG website?

Copyright All intellectual property of Birmingham Museums & Art Gallery such as trademarks, trade names, patents, registered designs and any other automatic intellectual property rights derived from the aesthetics or functionality of the Website remain the property of Birmingham Museums & Art Gallery.

By using the Website you agree to respect the intellectual property rights of Birmingham Museums & Art Gallery and will refrain from copying, downloading, transmitting, reproducing, printing, or exploiting for commercial purpose any material contained within the Website.

Thanks Sibadd 08:51, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[13] -- Zondor 09:11, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Root Page concept

Hi, I note that you defended Wikipedia:Root page in the past to some extent. The idea is now under attack despite months of effort my myself and User:Light current and numerous changes that overcome objections. We think we now have a very neat system in action, using special templates, which you can see in action in several places. Would you please take a look and consider supporting us by voting to keep at the link given on Wikipedia talk:Root page --Lindosland 17:43, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] gardening

You visited Albert Wilson. Might you form a view on the likely COPYVIO there - see talk page? Midgley 17:24, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Missing Wikipedians

Why did you strike User:168... on Wikipedia:Missing Wikipedians? He/she still hasn't contributed in 2 years. And why did you add a 2 year old diff? --rogerd 12:40, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

This should be reverted. Maybe I thought it said 2006? I can't do it now because my IP rather than my user account is blocked. [14] -- Zondor 12:49, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Julianne.Moore.png listed for deletion

Hi, sorry we can't use photo agency images. 20:13, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your toolbox

Hi Zondor, I had picked up the useful toolbox that you have on your page and pasted it to my homepage. Once there, I tried tweaking it a bit to suit my needs. However, when I checked your page, the changes had been made there as well... So I reverted the changes... Obviously I am a bit technologically challenged. Can you advise how I can make changes to the one on my userpage without affecting the one on yours. Thanks Lost 05:20, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2005 Belgian urban violence

Hi, I've nominated 2005 Belgian urban violence for deletion : Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2005 Belgian urban violence (second nomination). I thought you might be interested. --LucVerhelst 21:23, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Bad Things

...is now in your userspace. See TfD. Cheers, Abu-Fool Danyal ibn Amir al-Makhiri 00:48, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your "Columnisations"

I noticed you reformatted quite a few articles by creating multiple columns in certain sections.

While this may work in some cases, in others it actually makes the content a lot harder to read. And, unless I've lost track at some point, it is also against the styling guidelines of Wikipedia. See: Wikipedia:Guide to layout and Wikipedia:Manual of Style.

So, please don't go overboard with those columns, and, especially on popular articles, check what other people think about the reformatting before you apply them (since it does go against the guidelines). Thanks! --Frescard 06:12, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[15] -- Zondor 12:13, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Linked Aussie map

I think the map you added is an improvement to the earlier version. (I don't know what others will think though) It is too big though in my opinion. can reduce its width by maybe 30%??? It sticks out too much at the moment. --Merbabu 04:59, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

OK, nice work Zondor. I made some further comments in Talk:Australia --Merbabu 05:18, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

The map has been returned to the article. However, there is unsightly text bleed. Could you please add a margin to it (say of 1em or more)? Thanks--cj | talk 11:04, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Administrative divisions of England

neat map labelling! Morwen - Talk 10:57, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:NOT shortcuts

I figured out a way to do shortcuts. WP:CSD has id anchors for each criteria (like WP:CSD#G4). So I just did that using <span id> tags. Now each section has a shortcut. —Mitaphane _talk 22:57, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] clickable maps

Hi Zondor thats a fantastic program you have there for adding labels to maps! I tried making a couple of my own for sports (NFL, NBA, MLB ) but cant get them to sit in the article without braking the text, wonder if you know how to do this? --Astrokey44 10:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[16] -- Zondor 07:56, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Melbourne meetup in planning

Hello, you've indicated that you're interested in future Meetups in Melbourne on this list, so I'm giving you this message to remind you that Melbounre meetup number four is currently in planning. If you haven't already, please go to Wikipedia:Meetup/Melbourne to suggest possible dates, times and locations. Thanks --Michael Billington (talk • contribs) 02:44, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		I, Zzyzx11, award you this barnstar for adding clickable maps to various articles. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 22:53, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "X Label[l]ed Map"s

Hi Zondor,
Just become aware these via here and, as it looks as though you're their originator/facilitator – if so, thanks for great idea/work! – I wondered if you'd agree that the templates listed in the documentation might benefit from a rename to a

[{LabelledMap X}}

format (or the like), i.e. akin to the Infobox templates...?  If so, is there somewhere I ought to post this suggestion to test for any consensus...?  Thanks, David Kernow (talk) 01:16, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Melbourne meetup

Greetings, person who is listed as being interested in future meetups in Melbourne. The fourth meetup will be held on 18 December, at Lower House in Fed Square (in the Alfred Deaking building, Flinders Street end near the Atrium: map), starting from 7pm. We don't currently have a separate location for discussion beforehand, but there'll be plenty of time to talk wiki over dinner. --bainer (talk) 14:50, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] about Lee Isaacs

• Keep Isaacs is my vote. This photographer is quite notable. Editor Hoary decided long ago he didn't want Isaacs' on WP for whatever reason. We both obviously see, along with others, that Isaacs work is as notable as half of the photographers on WP whether its art photography and/or commercial photography. I fleshed out alot of this article but I do understand to google Lee Isaacs is not easy since alot of people have his first and last name as a middle name and last name. I have a book here, UPsouth, that has many examples of his work. This is a Warhol project grant through Space One Eleven. He is in good company as far as the notoriety of the other artists here is concerned. Emma Amos and bell hooks are in the book along with Willie Cole and Marie Weaver. Cole is the only other male in this project. Maybe someone could sift through some of this. Artsojourner 06:26, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Labelled Image Editor

Is there any to get a Labelled Image Editor that'll run on a Mac? My Java's up to date, but I get errors whenever I try to launch it. Is there something I can do to get it to run? --Cody.Pope 18:57, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fifth Melbourne meetup

The fifth meetup of Melbourne Wikipedians is being planned as a breakfast meeting in the city with Jimbo Wales (at a venue to be arranged) on Friday, 27 April 2007.

Jimbo has proposed breakfast as the one real window of opportunity during his tightly scheduled stay in Melbourne. Tbe precise time has to be sorted out with Jimbo, but the arrangements for the equivalent Adelaide meetup a few days before may give a good idea.

Feel free to edit the relevant page in any way that might be helpful. I feel like a bit of an interloper, not having attended previous meetups. If there's anything you can do to help, I'll be grateful. Please think about whether you'll be able to make it, assuming the arrangements are similar to those Adelaide is adopting (i.e. a block of time with people being fairly free to arrive when it suits them). Some indication on the page of your possible participation would be really helpful. Metamagician3000 06:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

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[17] -- Zondor 05:00, 4 April 2007 (UTC)