Talk:Zeta Beta Tau

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[edit] Alumni?

Jack Benny is listed as a member, but there is no record of him going to college. Should I delete him? Similarly, I do not believe John Lindsay, a 40's Yale graduate was in ZBT. Is there info on this or should I delete him also? Wasn't Ken Duberstein a member? Should he be included? mwinog2777 According to http://bama.ua.edu/~zbt/famous_alumni_of_zbt.htm, Jack Benny is Zebe as well as Kenneth Duberstein. He should be added, as he is fairly prominent. TiMike 22:39, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright violations?

The History section on this page was lifted from the ZBT website. I realized this after wikifying it. Future versions must not violate copyright standards. Wild Goose 20:02, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

If I recall, there is an old version of the page that has a fairly complete history that is not a copyvio, I would recommend finding that and restoring it. -Drdisque 20:19, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Sean I really think you are out of line for deleting all of the Zeta Beta Tau article. Let's completely ignore the fact that whoever editted that was acting stupid, and look at the article itself because that's all that matters-

History: Founding - Please tell me what you think here is a copyright violation.

"Merging with other fraternities In 1959, Phi Alpha merged into Phi Sigma Delta. In 1961 Kappa Nu merged into Phi Epsilon Pi. In 1969-70, Phi Sigma Delta and Phi Epsilon Pi merged into Zeta Beta Tau." Again this can't be rewritten in any way. You can't tell me you think these facts are a copyright violation. That would be like saying "George Washington was born on (whatever)" is a copyright violation of a biography on George Washington. Doesn't work that way when you are dealing with short factual statements.

"Pledging abolished In 1989, ZBT eliminated pledging because of hazing incidents that were occuring at the time.[2]"

This is a uniquely written sentence and sourced. Where's the problem?

"This change was not new to the world of fraternities, as in 1971 Lambda Chi Alpha became the first North-American Interfraternity Conference (NAIC) fraternity to eliminate pledging."

This fact is user written and not from a website.

"Semi-Annual Brotherhood Review Vote"

This whole section is also user written. You shouldn't be abritrarily deleting the hardwork of Wikipedia users, please be more careful next time. -CollegeGuy777

Nonsense. Anyone with the ability to read can ascertain that all the added content is copied word-for-word from http://www.columbia.edu/cu/zbt/history.html , on the Columbia University website.--SB | T 00:43, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
And note the copyright mark on the bottom of that website. - UtherSRG (talk) 00:51, 12 August 2006 (UTC)